On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Alex Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-05-09 at 15:05 -0400, omd wrote:
>> On Fri, May 9, 2014 at 12:11 PM, Henri Bouchard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > I CfJ: The Assessor, scshunt, failed to end the voting period for
>> > proposals 7641-7642 in 7 days, thereby violating Rules 107 and 2143.
>> > Scshunt has therefore committed the Class-2 Crime of Tardiness.
>> >
>> > I bar scshunt.
>
> CFJ: CFJ 3408 is assigned to omd.

Evidence: The caller's judgement in CFJ 2897:


On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 1:16 PM, Ed Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm having problems with the CFJ in question. The problem is that game
> custom and past CFJs give a strong indication that ehird's attempt
> failed; but the rules, to me, give a weak indication that it succeeded,
> and they take precedence. (As far as I can tell, subject lines are sent
> via the fora along with the rest of the message, and the only thing that
> could cause that to /not/ take an action is if it's too ambiguous to
> succeed. Hidden email headers are one thing, where there's ambiguity
> caused by the fact that people might not see the header in question, but
> with a plainly visible header like the subject line, in a situation
> where the subject line is clearly deliberately changed to take a message
> (e.g. because it's a reply to another message and has been deliberately
> edited, like it was in ehird's case), I can't see a rules-based reason
> to disallow it.
>
> Additionally, I don't see why everyone's annoyed with me for not judging
> this sooner. For one thing, it's II 0 and thus, by definition,
> uninteresting and unimportant. For another thing, CFJ judgements are not
> definitive. A judgement in this matter is entirely useless if it turns
> out to be incorrect. Sure, I could just say TRUE or FALSE with some
> reasonable reasoning (which I did!), but that doesn't mean that the
> verdict is necessarily platonically correct. If you want certainty about
> the gamestate, I suggest you sort it out pragmatically, via urgent
> proposal or ratification or whatever; attempting to deduce the platonic
> gamestate in a situation as balanced as this is fraught with danger, due
> to the chance of getting the wrong result.

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