On Tue, 28 Apr 2015 00:27:45 +0100 Alex Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 7740 aranea 1.0 Foo Bar Baz > AGAINST. Regardless as to the debate about whether this ends the game > as a whole (a chance I don't really want to take, although I don't > see how it could as rule 1698 outpowers it), I'm not going to give > you a free win without some sort of bribe. (If you have a bribe in > mind, I'm willing to hear suggestions.) I've arrived at the conviction that this proposal wouldn't end the game. As has already been pointed out, the only mechanism of winning in the current ruleset is specified by Rule 2438, and this rule explicitly says "[..] and a new game begins" as a separate step. However, IMO that's a no-op, as I consider the definition of "game" in Rule 1023 to be the relevant one here: "When used as a period of time, a "game" is the period of time between a pivot and the next pivot." (the phrase "a new game begins" wouldn't make sense if "game" was referring to Agora as a whole instead, because the universal entity "Agora" is explicitly not destroyed and then recreated by Rule 2438: "[..] in particular, Agora does not end [..]"). Furthermore, as you pointed out, even if I were wrong about this, Rule 1698 would prevent the end of Agora. What I'm not sure about is whether my AI-1 proposal actually has the power to grant me a win. Okay, enough digression, let's get back to your email. Sorry, I don't have any interesting ideas about possible bribes; but be sure to contact me if you do (even though I probably wouldn't want to put the other players who've voted FOR my proposal at a disadvantage ;) ). However, first you'd have to convince me that the proposal would actually grant me a win if it passes... -- aranea
