On Thu, 14 Sep 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> I have no idea how to handle PRESENT in runoff voting.  Is it a replacement
> for the whole list, or is it an option on the list?  If it's the first option
> on a ranked voting, is PRESENT "eliminated" if it doesn't win, so my vote 
> doesn't
> end up counting towards quorum?  And what happens if PRESENT is the majority?
> is everyone else eliminated?  I'm not sure if the "standard definition of 
> instant
> runoff" covers this.   So let's test that in some slightly-less essential 
> offices.
> Fun!!

This question is also a concern for endorsements.

Take the following results votes for voters P...Z for candidates A..G, then my
vote:

P:  {A, B, C}
Q:  {A, B, C}
R:  {A, B, C}

S:  {D, E, F}
T:  {D, E, F}
U:  {D, E, F}

Z:  {G, A}

Me:  {endorse Z, D}

>From first-choices, we have A=3, D=3, G=2 (1 certain G, 1 endorsement).

G is eliminated.

So if we eliminate my first conditional choice, "endorse Z", then the second
vote on my list is for D, D wins.

But if we keep my "endorse Z" vote, and G is eliminated, then I'm endorsing Z's
second choice, and A wins.

Which is right, if either?

The only way I can really make sense of this is if PRESENT and Endorse are
whole votes (i.e. substitute for the whole list, not part of a list).  But
I'm not sure if the rules say that, or are broken?



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