If it isn't self-ratifying, you're not obliged to deal with it, I think.

On Mon, 16 Oct 2017 at 00:09 Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm probably going to deny this, as there is (I think) a custom that the
> effective date of a revision is implied to be that of the original report.
>
> -Aris
>
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 9:04 PM Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Oh, also, just in case, to stop self-ratification: CoE: there are more
>> proposals in the Proposal Pool than just these.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, 15 Oct 2017 at 21:10 Alexis Hunt <aler...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I spend an AP to CFJ: The below-quoted document contains a
>>> self-ratifying list of proposals in the Proposal Pool. Arguments: does this
>>> count as a portion of a purported Promotor's report? There is no
>>> information in the report which isn't in the document, and this is clearly
>>> published by the Promotor with the intent to convey all of the report's
>>> information. The subject further implies it was a report.
>>>
>>> Evidence: rules 1607 and 2201
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017, 17:38 Aris Merchant, <
>>> thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This following is a revision to the proposal pool from my last report.
>>>>
>>>> The proposal pool contains the following proposals:
>>>>
>>>> ID    Author(s)     AI   Title
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> pp1  nichdel        3.0  Slower Promotion
>>>> pp2  nichdel        1.0  Guaranteed Stampage
>>>> pp3* Alexis         3.0  Clarity Act
>>>> pp4* Gaelan         1.0  Another Economy Fix Attempt
>>>>
>>>> Legend: <ID>* : Proposal is pending.
>>>>
>>>> The full text of the aforementioned proposals is included below.
>>>>
>>>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>>> ID: pp1
>>>> Title: Slower Promotion
>>>> Adoption index: 3.0
>>>> Author: nichdel
>>>> Co-authors:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Amend R1607 (Distribution) by replacing:
>>>>
>>>>   In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir weekly
>>>> duties,
>>>>   distribute all pending proposals.
>>>>
>>>> with
>>>>
>>>>   In a given Agoran week, as part of eir weekly duties, the Promotor
>>>> SHALL:
>>>>
>>>>      * distribute all pending proposals if there are no unresolved
>>>> Agoran
>>>>      decisions to adopt a proposal.
>>>>
>>>>      * list all unresolved Agoran decisions to adopt a proposal. The
>>>> Promotor
>>>>      MAY still distribute all pending proposals.
>>>>
>>>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>>> ID: pp2
>>>> Title: Guaranteed Stampage
>>>> Adoption index: 1.0
>>>> Author: nichdel
>>>> Co-authors:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Amend 2499 "Welcome Packages" to read in full:
>>>>
>>>>   If a player has not received one since e most recently became a
>>>>   player, any player CAN, by announcement, cause em to receive a
>>>>   Welcome package. When a player receives a Welcome Package:
>>>>
>>>>     * Agora transfers em 1/10th the FV in shinies and
>>>>
>>>>     * a Stamp, with Agora as the Creater, is created in eir
>>>>       possession.
>>>>
>>>> Amend R2498 to be titled "Stamps" and to read in full:
>>>>
>>>>   Stamps are an asset. The Secretary is the recordkeepor of Stamps.
>>>>
>>>>   Each Stamp has an associated Creater which SHOULD be noted whenever
>>>> the Stamp
>>>>   is mentioned and MUST be noted whenever the Stamp is transfered.
>>>> Stamps with
>>>>   the same creater are fungible.
>>>>
>>>>   Once per month a player CAN, by announcement, create a Stamp with
>>>> themselves
>>>>   as the Creater by transferring the Stamp Value, in shinies, to Agora.
>>>>
>>>>   If Agora owns at least as many Shinies as the current Stamp Value, a
>>>> player
>>>>   CAN, by announcement, destroy a Stamp e owns to cause Agora to
>>>> transfer the
>>>>   Stamp Value, in shinies, to emself.
>>>>
>>>> Enact a Power 1 rule titled "Stamp Wins" with the following text:
>>>>
>>>>   If a player owns 10 stamps with different Creaters, none of which
>>>> have Agora
>>>>   as its Creater, e CAN win by announcement. Doing so destroys the
>>>> specified
>>>>   stamps.
>>>>
>>>> Enact a Power 1 rule titled "Basic Stamp Income" with the following
>>>> text:
>>>>
>>>>   When the Secretary publishes the first Weekly Report of an Agoran
>>>> Month, e
>>>>   CAN and SHALL, by announcement, create Stamps with Agora as the
>>>> Creater and
>>>>   transfer them to any player who has no stamps and less than the Stamp
>>>> Value
>>>>   in shinies at the time of publication.
>>>>
>>>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>>> ID: pp3
>>>> Title: Clarity Act
>>>> Adoption index: 3.0
>>>> Author: Alexis
>>>> Co-authors:
>>>>
>>>> Text in square brackets is not a part of this proposal's substance and
>>>> is ignored when it takes effect.
>>>>
>>>> Enact a new power 3 rule entitled Voting Methods, reading as follows:
>>>>       Each Agoran decision has a voting method, which must be
>>>>       AI-majority, instant runoff, or first-past-the-post. The voting
>>>>       method is that specified by the authorizing authority, or
>>>>       first-past-the-post by default.
>>>>
>>>>       Each Agoran decision has a set of valid options (the choices that
>>>>       the voters are being asked to select from) and valid votes (the
>>>>       ways in which the voters can express their opinion or lack
>>>> thereof.
>>>>       For AI-majority decisions, the valid options are FOR and AGAINST;
>>>>       for other decisions, the valid options are defined by other rules.
>>>>
>>>>       The valid votes on an Agoran decision are:
>>>>       1. PRESENT;
>>>>       2. The valid conditional votes, as defined by rules of power at
>>>>          least that of this rule; and
>>>>       3. For an instant runoff decision, the ordered lists of entities.
>>>>       4. For any other decision, the valid options.
>>>>
>>>> [This splits off the portion of 955 that isn't actually related to
>>>>  resolution. The definition of instant runoff is changed to evaluate
>>>>  validity of options at the end of the voting period, and avoid
>>>>  retroactively invalidating votes if an option drops out.]
>>>>
>>>> Amend Rule 955 by replacing the second paragraph and numbered list with
>>>> the following and by deleting the second bullet in the unnumbered list.
>>>>       1. For an AI-majority decision, let F be the total strength of all
>>>>          valid ballots cast FOR a decision, A be the same for AGAINST,
>>>>          and AI be the adoption index of the decision. The outcome is
>>>>          ADOPTED if F/A >= AI and F/A > 1 (or F>0 and A=0), otherwise
>>>>          REJECTED.
>>>>
>>>>       2. For an instant runoff decision, the outcome is whichever option
>>>>          wins according to the standard definition of instant runoff.
>>>>          For this purpose, a ballot of strength N is treated as if it
>>>>          were N distinct ballots expressing the same preferences. In
>>>>          case multiple valid options tie for the lowest number of votes
>>>>          at any stage, the vote collector CAN and must, in the
>>>>          announcement of the decision's resolution, select one such
>>>>          option to eliminate; if, for M > 1, all eir possible choices in
>>>>          the next M stages would result in the same set of options being
>>>>          eliminated, e need not specify the order of elimination. If an
>>>>          entity that is part of a valid vote is not a valid option at
>>>>          the end of the voting period, or disqualified by the rule
>>>>          providing for the decision, then that entity is eliminated
>>>>          prior to the first round of counting.
>>>>
>>>>       3. For a first-past-the-post decision, the outcome is whichever
>>>>          option received the highest total strength of valid ballots. In
>>>>          case of a tie, the vote collector CAN and must, in the
>>>>          announcement of the decision's resolution, select one of the
>>>>          leaders as the outcome.
>>>>
>>>> [No change here, except for removing the valid votes, and clearly
>>>>  specifying what happens to options that are no longer valid at the end
>>>>  of the voting period.]
>>>>
>>>> If the text "The rule providing for an Agoran Decision by instant runoff
>>>> may disqualify one or more options; in such a case, they are eliminated
>>>> prior to beginning the first stage of the vote count." appears in Rule
>>>> 955, delete it.
>>>>
>>>> [Coordinating amendment to the Election Procedure proposal. H. Assessor,
>>>>  please resolve that one first.]
>>>>
>>>> Amend Rule 2127 to read as follows:
>>>>       A conditional vote on an Agoran decision is a vote which indicates
>>>>       a vote based on some condition(s). A conditional vote is evaluated
>>>>       at the end of the voting period and, rules to the contrary
>>>>       notwithstanding, is clearly specified if and only if the value of
>>>>       the condition(s) is/are determinate at the end of the voting
>>>>       period. If the conditional is clearly specified, and evaluates to
>>>>       a valid vote, it is counted as that vote; otherwise, it is counted
>>>>       as PRESENT.
>>>>
>>>>       Any vote which is clearly expressed as a conditional, e.g. "FOR if
>>>>       <X> is true, AGAINST otherwise", is a valid conditional vote that
>>>>       evaluates as specified.
>>>>
>>>>       A vote endorsing another person is equivalent to a conditional
>>>>       vote evaluating to the vote specified in that person's valid
>>>>       ballot on the decision, if any.
>>>>
>>>>       For an instant runoff decision, a vote consisting of a list, one
>>>>       or more entries of which are valid conditional votes, and the
>>>>       remaining entries of which are valid options, is a valid
>>>>       conditional vote. Such a vote is evaluated by evaluating each
>>>>       conditional entry to a list of votes (or an empty list, if it
>>>>       evaluates to PRESENT either directly or indirectly), and then
>>>>       concatenating those lists with the specified valid options in the
>>>>       order they occurred in the original vote.
>>>>
>>>> [New conditional vote rule clearly specifies what conditional votes are
>>>>  valid, as well as providing for evaluation of conditional lists in
>>>>  instant runoff in the sensible way.]
>>>>
>>>> Amend Rule 2438 by replacing the paragraph describing Orange
>>>> Ribbons with:
>>>>
>>>>       Orange (O): When a proposal is adopted via an Agoran Decision on
>>>>       which no valid ballots were AGAINST (after evaluating
>>>>       conditionals), its proposer earns an Orange Ribbon.
>>>>
>>>> Award G. a Transparent Ribbon.
>>>>
>>>> [I accept that it's fair that this may not actually be a problem,
>>>> but clarifying it and converging gamestate does not hurt.]
>>>>
>>>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>>> ID: pp4
>>>> Title: Another Economy Fix Attempt
>>>> Adoption index: 1.0
>>>> Author: Gaelan
>>>> Co-authors:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Create a power-1 rule titled "Keep it up" with the following text:
>>>> ===
>>>> If an action defined entirely by the rules that would otherwise be
>>>> POSSIBLE for a player to perform is IMPOSSIBLE due to Agora having a
>>>> low shiny balance, that player may win the game with 2 Days Notice.
>>>> Upon doing so, half of all player's shiny balances (rounded down) are
>>>> transferred to Agora.
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>>>
>>>

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