On 2017-10-21 09:22, Kerim Aydin wrote:
Telnaior - you should announce intent to win with 2 days notice, in case proposal 7923 passes... On Fri, 20 Oct 2017, ATMunn . wrote:Speaking of... If Telnaior's shiny balance is 0 as of the sending of this message, I transfer 10 shinies to Telnaior. I included the conditional in case Agora did have enough shinies for the welcome package to succeed. I don't think it did, however. On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 6:05 PM, ATMunn . <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: Eh, you'll get money soon enough. Welcome! I'm Agora's second-newest player before you registered (I think), so I'm still learning the ropes. On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Madeline <j...@iinet.net.au> wrote: That's both the most disappointing (but perhaps the most sensible) interpretation and means I'm stuck being broke D: On 2017-10-21 07:47, Aris Merchant wrote: The generally accepted interpretation is that the action entirely fails. Welcome back! -Aris On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 1:46 PM, Madeline <j...@iinet.net.au> wrote: Alright, so what... does happen? It specifies you can't destroy a stamp if Agora can't pay the balance, but nothing else has a similar clause which suggests it's intended to still be possible. On 2017-10-21 07:44, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: The shiny balance can not be negative because it is an asset, not a switch. On 10/20/2017 04:42 PM, Telnaior wrote: I flip my Citizenship to Registered. For recordkeeping purposes, my username is Telnaior and I was previously deregistered in 2014. Anyways, I'm going to apologise, I feel bad for causing trouble so early but I haven't been able to find anything in the rules that prevents Agora's (or anyone's) shiny balance from going negative, is there? (This might be my first target for proposal, perhaps) I receive my Welcome Package, claiming 50 shinies from Agora.
I intend to win the game with two days' notice, in accordance with Rule 7923. (Does this really work before it's even a rule?)
In all seriousness, though, how should we actually fix this mess? My first thought is to make a second floating value attached to how many shinies are in players' hands and use that to determine costs, then rename the current floating value to "reward value" or something like that and only use it to determine rewards (and perhaps also attach it to report rewards and others that currently aren't as well? It shouldn't ever be possible for the money to run out, and I feel like letting things round down to 0 is a better choice)
