But that not withstanding, I support using the same format in CFJ archives, and I think it's a good idea to have consistency between the CFJ archives and the Rules, so I'll just use "Judgement" from now on.

Jason Cobb

On 7/3/19 12:38 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
I'm using the Thunderbird spellchecker, and it yells at me for "Judgement"...

Jason Cobb

On 7/3/19 12:34 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:

On 7/3/2019 8:50 AM, Jason Cobb wrote:
Again, as a matter of style, should we prefer "Judgement" or "Judgment"? My  > spellchecker complains about the first one, and it appears that "Judgment" is more accepted as correct. The Rules use both, although they only use "Judgment" (no e) twice, that being in Rule 2479 ("Official Justice"), but that rule then immediately proceeds to use "Judgement" (with e) twice.

I don't really care which one is picked, I'd rather just have consistency.

Looking back at the CotC archives, "judgement" is used in case files back to CFJ 1 in 1993 (i.e. in the "official" CotC case publications). I did a few
spot checks in different years and couldn't find "judgment" used.

However, in the original ruleset itself, AFAICT, both were used. It was
"judgment" in this context (http://www.fysh.org/~zefram/agora
/rules_text.txt):

> RULE 113
>      A Player always has the option to forfeit the Game rather than
>      continue to play or incur a Game penalty.  No penalty worse than
>      losing, in the judgment of the Player to incur it, may be
>      imposed.

But it was "judgement" in this context:
> RULE 216
>      A legal Judgement is either TRUE, FALSE, or UNDECIDED. The
>      Judgement may be accompanied by reasons and arguments, but such
>      reasons and arguments form no part of the Judgement itself.

I don't know if there was any purposeful distinction intended between
the two spellings in the initial ruleset.

The history of the "judgement" rule (R216 then later R591) shows it was
always "Judgement" in the CFJ definition context except for when it was
"judicial case" instead.  The main CFJ definition was consistent, although sometimes "judgment" appeared in supporting clauses, here it is in the same
paragraph as "judgement" in R591/12:
>    A Judge judges a CFJ by sending eir Judgment to the Clerk of the
>      Courts.  The Judgement of a CFJ must be either TRUE or FALSE.
but that was unique to a short time period, both R591/10 and R591/14 use "judgement" solely.

I remember being corrected "judgement" by someone when I was new here in 2001 so that's kinda what I trained myself to use.

So overall, I think "judgement" is most consistent historically.

I don't have a preference in terms of general taste, except to say that I'm going to keep it "judgement" in the CFJ archives, for historical consistency
(i.e. for smooth auto-parsing).

MW-online has this to say:

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/judgment
> Judgment can also be spelled "judgement," and usage experts have long
> disagreed over which spelling is the preferred one. Henry Fowler asserted, > "The OED [Oxford English Dictionary] prefers the older and more reasonable > spelling. 'Judgement' is therefore here recommended." William Safire held
> an opposite opinion, writing, "My judgment is that Fowler is not to be
> followed." "Judgement" is in fact the older spelling, but it dropped from
> favor and for centuries "judgment" was the only spelling to appear in
> dictionaries. That changed when the OED (Fowler's source) was published > showing "judgement" as an equal variant. Today, "judgment" is more popular
> in the U.S., whereas both spellings make a good showing in Britain.

So I think we can pick either as Agoran dialect and be "archaic but not
incorrect", spellcheckers notwithstanding.  FWIW, the Thunderbird
spellchecker doesn't flag either one as incorrect.

-G.

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