On Sun, Jun 06, 2021 at 03:28:59PM +0000, Falsifian wrote: > On Fri, Jun 04, 2021 at 09:13:24PM +0100, ais523 via agora-discussion wrote: > > On Fri, 2021-06-04 at 15:46 +0000, Falsifian via agora-business wrote: > > > I grant one Victory Point to myself (using my Legacy focus). > > > > > > I pay a set of 4 Victory Cards to gain 10 Victory Points. > > > > > > For the sole purpose of transferring the Trust (as defined under the > > > Obstructive Pooling contract), I transfer 8 Victory Points to ATMunn. > > > > > > I transfer 8 Victory Points to the Obstructive Pooling contract, > > > thereby gaining 80 Decipoints. > > > > > > As allowed by the Obstructive Pooling contract, I act on ATMunn's > > > behalf to transfer 8 Victory Points from ATMunn to myself. > > > > > > If my math is right, I now have 23 Victory Points, ATMunn has 0, and > > > the next-highest player balance is 3. > > > > > > I Take Over the Economy. > > > > I was sure that Obstructive Pooling was a scam, but couldn't see it. > > > > It turns out that there is indeed a scam in the contract (which wasn't > > in the original version of the contract, but rather was added by the > > amendment, making it much harder to spot; I know I looked at the > > original version of the contract, but not at the amendment). The quoted > > message demonstrates how it works. > > > > I was wrong about the aim of the scam, though. It wasn't to steal > > Victory Points from other players and use them to win; it was a scam to > > make the "obstructive" part of the pooling worthless. That means that > > depositing points made it easier rather than harder for other players > > to win, because they wouldn't be being held somewhere which made > > winning more difficult. That said, by the look of things, Falsifian was > > only 2 Victory Points away from having enough to win in a world where > > the contract didn't exist at all, so it seems to only have had a very > > minor impact (other than, perhaps, dissuading people from trying harder > > to prevent the win, because they didn't realise that one was imminent). > > > > Was placing the scam into the contract intentional from the start? A > > slow-burning scam over the course of several months would be quite > > impressive. > > > > -- > > ais523 > > I wish I were that clever. In fact, I didn't notice the scam was > possible until the day I pulled it off. The contract itself, and the > amendment, were innocent (if you'll believe me!). > > I did notice a different scam a few days ago: I could transfer the > Trust by transferring Victory Cards instead of Victory Points. It's the > same kind of scam as the one I did pull off: Victory Cards do not pose > an obstacle, so it takes the teeth out of the obstruction mechanism. > > I was scratching my head, going through different possibilities of > trade in X cards for products and use the rest to transfer the Trust, > but I didn't have enough points for any combination to work. Then I saw > the other scam. > > -- > Falsifian
(Re-sending.) -- Falsifian
