On 6/22/2022 3:30 PM, nix via agora-business wrote: > On 6/22/22 17:25, nix via agora-business wrote: >> On 6/22/22 17:22, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>> On 6/20/22 17:41, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: >>>> On 6/20/22 17:40, Jason Cobb wrote: >>>>> On 6/19/22 18:51, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>> Rule 2621/9 (Power=1.0) >>>>>>> VP Wins >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If a player has at least 20 more Winsomes than each other >>>>>>> player, >>>>>>> e CAN Take Over the Economy by announcement, provided no person >>>>>>> has won the game by doing so in the past 30 days. >>>>>> I agree to the following contract: "Winsome More": >>>>>> 1. G. is the only party to this contract, and can amend or >>>>>> terminate >>>>>> it by announcement. >>>>>> 2. Winsomes are a currency tracked by G. in eir monthly report. >>>>>> 3. G. CAN create, destroy, or transfer Winsomes by announcement. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I create 21 Winsomes in my possession. >>>>>> >>>>>> Winsome Report: I have 21, nobody else has any. >>>>>> >>>>>> Comment: >>>>>> >>>>>> There's a bit of ambiguity in these two paragraphs in Rule 1586: >>>>>> A rule, contract, or regulation that refers to an entity by name >>>>>> refers to the entity that had that name when the rule first came >>>>>> to include that reference, even if the entity's name has since >>>>>> changed. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the entity that defines another entity is amended such that it >>>>>> no longer defines the second entity, then the second entity and >>>>>> its attributes cease to exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> Winsomes are no longer "defined" by the rules but they rules do "refer" >>>>>> to >>>>>> Winsomes. If Winsomes have ceased to exist as per the second paragraph, >>>>>> they are no longer entities, and the "reference" bit may or may not apply >>>>>> to *former* entities. "Even if the entity's name has since changed" is >>>>>> very different than "even if the entity no longer exists", and if rules >>>>>> referred to no-longer-existing entities then we'd have to go back a long >>>>>> way into the rules to find terms that were repealed and brought back... >>>>>> >>>>>> -G. >>>>>> >>>>> The above is CFJ 3969. >>>>> >>>>> I assign CFJ 3969 to ais523. >>>>> >>>> Sorry, subject line was wrong. >>>> >>>> This message contains no game actions. >>>> >>> >>> Okay apparently I'm an idiot and the message never actually called a >>> CFJ, so the assignment failed and ais523 has nothing to judge. >>> >>> -- >>> Jason Cobb >>> >>> Arbitor, Assessor, Rulekeepor, Stonemason >>> >> >> CFJ: CFJ 3936 does exist, is the entire contents of the message from G. >> quoted above, was created by Jason, and was assigned to ais523 successfully. >> >> Arguments: We let people create CFJs by simply calling text a CFJ pretty >> regularly. Jason called it a CFJ and assigned it. Looks like a CFJ to me. >> >> -- >> nix >> Herald, Registrar, Collector >> > > I withdraw the CFJ I created above. I CFJ: CFJ 3969 does exist, is the > entire contents of the message from G. quoted above, was created by > Jason, and was assigned to ais523 successfully. > > -- > nix > Herald, Registrar, Collector >
Gratuitous: Using the typical Arbitor assignment-format language for assigning (but not calling) a cfj does not "set forth intent" to call a cfj to the clear-and-unambiguous standard for by-announcement actions (R478/40).