On Sat, Feb 11, 2023 at 5:23 PM Forest Sweeney via agora-discussion <agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2023, 3:27 PM nix via agora-discussion < > agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > > On 2/11/23 15:06, nix via agora-business wrote: > > > Below is the thesis. 4st has submitted it in the hopes of receiving a > > ANA. > > > > Before giving a verdict, I want some context for the submission. In > > Discord 4st argued anything can be art. I agree largely. But I think it > > needs context. This isn't R. Mutt and the Independents, that's already > > been played out. Anything CAN be art, but tell me why *this* is art > > worthy of a degree, in a way that doesn't make every single proposal > > worthy of a degree. > > > > -- > > nix > > This proposal is worthy of a degree for a few reasons: > [snip]
Your list reads, to me, like reasons that your text is worthy of being considered as a good, fun, and creative proposal, and possibly worth voting for. It does not give me reason to think of it as a thesis. There's been many many proposals that have been longer, taken more effort, had more made-up words etc. (stones, birds, horses, and similar in the past were all imitative works of art following a metaphor). Without denigrating yours at all, why wouldn't we award all of those theses as well if we awarded it to you, just because you asked for it? (In other words, I'm not wholly sure you spoke to artistic merit?) > (I have only seen one other thesis worthy of a degree, and one thesis that > doesn't, so far. and the thesis that was worthy was a Doctorate.) Arts degrees are relatively new, and rather different in structure than all others, so there's not many in the past for comparison. I can't remember any ANA failures (could be wrong? didn't see any on a quick search). There were two successful ANAs: Cuddlebeam's is available here: https://imgur.com/a/VDAQaae And Aspen's is available below. https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2020-July/043923.html Insomuch as "length" is any indicator of artistic effort, I will wholly agree that yours and Aspen's are in the same ballpark for an ANA. -G.
