On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:54 PM ais523 via agora-discussion
<agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2023-06-04 at 17:42 -0700, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 4, 2023 at 5:04 PM ais523 via agora-business
> > <agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> > > It's also worth noting that G. explicitly stated in eir message that e
> > > consented to the Rice Plan – the subsequent withdrawal was sent in the
> > > same message. Although Agora assumes that multiple actions listed in
> > > the same message happen one after another, this isn't something that
> > > can be true of a player's state of mind, because the entire message is
> > > sent at a single point in time; if the player had changed eir mind and
> > > no longer consented, e would just not send the email, or edit it before
> > > sending.
> >
> > I disagree with this rather strongly with this statement, given the
> > Agoran strong assumption of sequential actions within a message.  It's
> > perfectly possible for a person to say "I consent to this at this
> > stage of the message, then I do some stuff, then I withdraw my consent
> > at the end of the message [after stuff is done]."  That's really very
> > standard practice, and it is possible to have that sort of consent
> > process in one's mind when hitting 'send'.
>
> But a Rice Plan is resolved at the end of the week. There is no purpose
> for which consenting to it at some points in a message, and not at
> others, would be meaningful.

Thanks, this statement helped clarify for me - if you're thinking of
consent here as generally irrelevant except at the end of the week (it
may be relevant sooner if contract states/conditionals are involved,
but that's not true here), so that the "internal state during the
message" is irrelevant, my objections to the natural consent section
are less.  However, does that mean that any cfj (like this one) called
before the end of the week should be judged irrelevant?

-G.

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