On Sun, 2024-03-03 at 11:45 +0100, Yachay Wayllukuq via agora-
discussion wrote:
> > This *really* seems like an infinite free win generation machine. At the
> > *very* least there should be some cooldown between wins (I'd argue for a
> > global 30 day cooldown at minimum)
> > 
> 
> I'm flattered that my incompetence is mistaken for some kind of plot. The
> suggestion seems good and easy to implement to me.

I guess this is worth expressing in a different way – even if it isn't
intended as an infinite free win generation machine, it is very likely
that at least one (and probably several) Agorans will attempt to use it
as one, because there aren't sufficient safeguards to prevent it being
used as one. So your proposal is unlikely to lead to the sort of
gameplay that you apparently expect it to.

A historical point of view: one of my favourite scams from the past of
Agora happened when someone suggested a similarly well-intentioned
contest that nonetheless had loopholes which made it very easy for a
small group of players to use it to win immediately. The scam wasn't
against the contest itself (which was quickly recognised by Agorans as
a whole to have insufficient safeguards against an immediate win), but
rather against the dependent/tabled actions system, with a group of
conspirators (including me) managing to get a without-3-objections to
occur and create the contest even though the rest of Agora thought
that, as there had been 3 objections already, the contest creation
attempt had failed. (At the time there were no restrictions on how
quickly a dependent action could be taken after an objection was
withdrawn, so we simply just made the objections ourself, and withdrew
them when it was time to scam the win. Nowadays, that doesn't work:
rule 2124 imposes a 24-hour delay.)

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ais523

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