Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=3116
============================== CFJ 3116 ============================== If the Promise cited in CFJ 3114 were cashed by ais523, G. would generally be found NOT GUILTY of the resulting violation. ======================================================================== Caller: G. Judge: Murphy Judgement: ======================================================================== History: Called by G.: 24 Oct 2011 05:46:04 GMT Assigned to Murphy: (as of this message) ======================================================================== Caller's Arguments: 1. Once the promise is in someone else's hands, G. generally can't prevent the breach from occurring (see R1504(e)). 2. This promise contained an illegal action when the promise was created. The judge is asked to also opine on what would happen if the promise weren't illegal when written, but became illegal later (see R1504(d or e)). ======================================================================== Gratuitous Arguments by omd: In this case, I think we have a precedent that "could have reasonably avoided" is not blind to history-- as long as you could have reasonably avoided violating the rule by not creating the promise in the first place, you're still guilty. Whether you'd be guilty in the hypothetical case would probably depend on whether it was reasonable to expect you would not end up violating a rule by making that promise. ========================================================================