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=============================== CFJ 3750 =============================== In this message, G. destroyed a coin. ========================================================================== Caller: G. Judge: twg Judgement: FALSE ========================================================================== History: Called by G.: 01 Jul 2019 15:29:30 Assigned to twg: 03 Jul 2019 00:52:46 Judged FALSE by twg: 03 Jul 2019 10:11:12 ========================================================================== Caller's Arguments: The award in question is not a fee-based action at all. R2579 specifies that if a *correct* fee-announcement is (but e.g. the actor does not have the fee) then no asset holdings are changed. In the case of an "incorrect" fee-announcement, there's no fail-safe that I can find one way or the other - do the assets change? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caller's Evidence: On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:29 AM Kerim Aydin <ke...@uw.edu> wrote:
I award myself the Patent Title "nouveau riche" by paying a fee of 1 Coin for this sole purpose.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Judge twg's Arguments: On July 3, 2019 3:05 AM, James Cook wrote:
Gratuitous: I don't think I understood G.'s argument. As far as I can tell, this is straightforward. R2579 says "To perform a fee-based action, an entity ... must announce", and later "Upon such an announcement". I think the first excerpt is clearly only talking about fee-based actions, and the second excerpt refers to the first and so is also only talking about fee-based actions. As G. points out in eir original argument, this is not a fee-based action. So R2579 does not define any mechanism for G. to destroy a Coin when no fee-based action is involved.
Precisely so. Assets CANNOT be destroyed except as explicitly specified by their backing document (R2577/2 "Asset Actions"), which for coins is the Ruleset as a whole. The Ruleset specifies the following mechanisms by which a coin can be destroyed: * by announcement, if it is owned by a contract and the contract permits it (R1742/21 "Contracts"); * immediately, if it is owned by an entity other than a player or the Lost and Found Department (R2576/0 "Ownership"); * without objection, if it is owned by the Lost and Found Department (R2576/0); * by announcement, by its owner (R2577/2); * upon announcement of the performance of a fee-based action by the coin's owner if it is the fee and there is no recipient specified for it (R2579/0 "Fee-based actions"). The first three mechanisms clearly do not apply here because G. is not a player and is neither a contract nor the Lost and Found Department. Nor does the last, because, as Falsifian correctly identifies, G. did not announce eir performance of a fee-based action in the message. So the only mechanism that could plausibly apply is "by announcement". R478/34 "Fora" says: Where the rules define an action that CAN be performed "by announcement", a person performs that action by unambiguously and clearly specifying the action and announcing that e performs it. Did G. unambiguously and clearly specify the action of destroying one of eir coins and announce that e performed it? No, of course not. Even disregarding the question of which grammatical phrasings count as an announcement, it's so ambiguous that e had to call a CFJ about it! I judge CFJ 3750 FALSE. ==========================================================================