The below CFJ is 3762. I assign it to twg. =============================== CFJ 3762 =============================== The investigator of the Finger-pointing done in this message CAN impose a fine on Jason Cobb for the Crime of Oathbreaking for the pledge in evidence. ========================================================================== Caller: Jason Cobb Judge: twg ========================================================================== History: Called by Jason Cobb: 24 Jul 2019 06:34:12 Assigned to twg: [now] ========================================================================== Caller's Evidence: Pledge: https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora- business/2019-July/041044.html Breaking of the pledge: [message in which I create this CFJ]
I pledge, under penalty of a Class 0 Crime, not to make any pledges for the next 5 seconds. I point my finger at Jason Cobb for the Class 0 Crime of Oathbreaking. I fully admit that I am guilty of the above accusation.
Excerpt from Rule 2450 ("Pledges"):
If a Player makes a clear public pledge (syn. Oath) to perform (or refrain from performing) certain actions, then breaking the pledge within the pledge's time window is the Class N crime of Oathbreaking, where N is 2 unless the pledge explicitly states otherwise. The time window of a pledge is 60 days, unless the pledge explicitly states otherwise.
Excerpt from Rule 2557 ("Sentencing Guidelines"):
When the rules authorize an investigator to impose the Cold Hand of Justice for a violation, e CAN do so by levying a fine of B on the perp by announcement, within the following guidelines: - B is at least 1 and at most twice the base value of the violation. - If the violation is described by the rules as a Class N crime, then N is the base value; otherwise the base value is 2.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------- Caller's Arguments: Under Rule 2450, I have violated an Oath by making an Oath after I had made an Oath not to make any Oaths (how fun). The Oath explicitly states that the Oath was under penalty of a Class 0 Crime. Thus, under Rule 2450, I am guilty of the Class 0 Crime of Oathbreaking. Thus, under Rule 2478 ("Vigilante Justice", not quoted here), the investigator CAN (and SHALL) impose the Cold Hand of Justice on the perp (me). E is authorized to impose the CHoJ, and, under Rule 2557, therefore e CAN impose a fine on the perp (with certain specified numerical bounds, but we'll get to that later). I note that the Rules do not explicitly state that N in a Class N crime must be positive, or even an integer. I thus argue that a Class 0 Crime is a thing that can happen. Since the crime committed was a Class 0 Crime, the base value for the crime (in Rule 2557's parlance) is 0. Thus, under Rule 2557, the investigator CAN levy a fine on me of at least 1 and of at most 0. This is a mathematical impossibility. There is no valid number of Blots that the investigator CAN fine me, yet the Rules assert that e CAN levy a fine. At this point, I will attempt to argue what I think the judgement should be. I think this is clearly not IRRELEVANT. I don't believe this is INSUFFICIENT, as I have (hopefully) provided everything that supports my argument. I don't think it should be DISMISS (this statement is not malformed, sufficient information does exist to make a judgment, and the judge clearly can assign a valid judgment). That leaves TRUE, FALSE, and PARADOXICAL. The following is admittedly somewhat shaky, but here it goes: I know of no rules or precedent that states what happens when the Rules require a mathematical impossibility. The Rules also do not state whether or not the rules of math take precedence over the Rules. Regarding TRUE: The Rules define "CAN" as "Attempts to perform the described action are successful." This does not describe applying a fine here, as there is no valid number of Blots that I could be fined that would be permitted under Rule 2557. Thus any attempts to do so (to levy a fine) would NOT be successful. Regarding FALSE: I think this might be a valid outcome, but the Rules explicitly state that the investigator CAN levy a fine, so who are we to tell the Rules that they are wrong? Regarding PARADOXICAL: I think this might be a valid outcome. Both TRUE and FALSE have significant issues, as I have described above. The Rules state that a person CAN do something that is mathematically impossible to do. That sounds like a paradox to me. ==========================================================================