anyway. this is my last comment. as I said, the best way to escape from answering the questions is to just say, 'stop the discussion'.
On 8/1/17, Shireen Irani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote: > this debate has gone way passed any disability issue. why it is still > being allowed to continue on this list is a mystery. particularly in > the absence of the exact facts that could have made such a discussion > 'on this list', worthwhile. > > > > On 8/1/17, bhawani shankar verma via Ai > <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> wrote: >> marrital rape is just a matter of discussion among so called educated, >> women >> activists and highprofile society. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: gatak singh via Ai >> Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2017 11:51 AM >> To: Share, empower &Enrich >> Cc: gatak singh >> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: >> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman >> >> has there been any cases where a married women has filed a rape case >> against her own husband in the past? >> I have never read such cases. just wanted to know. >> >> >> On 8/1/17, Kanchan Pamnani via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> >> wrote: >>> Just by marrying someone does it mitigate rape? You have mentioned this >>> twice in your email. >>> I think we should get into a proper discussion on some of the concepts >>> discussed in this article and by many of you. It will help broaden >>> thinking. >>> K >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Ai [mailto:ai-boun...@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in] On Behalf Of >>> gatak singh via Ai >>> Sent: 01 August 2017 11:11 >>> To: Share, empower &Enrich >>> Cc: gatak singh; jnuvision >>> Subject: Re: [Ai] Abhishek Behl reported in Hindustan Times yesterday: >>> Gurgaon: Blind banker gets 10-year jail for raping blind woman >>> >>> sorry for discussing again but I couldn't stop commenting on this matter. >>> I know few examples where the girl has not accepted the proposal of the >>> boy, >>> but when the boy got a government job, she threatened to marry her >>> otherwise >>> she would go to the court aledging that he promised to marry but did not >>> keep up his promise. so boy had to marry her due to fear of loosing his >>> government job. >>> in this matter, boy had promised that he would marry that girl. what I >>> understand is that girl may have agreed for sex based on this promise. >>> but in any case, boy should have married her. but he did not marry, >>> that's >>> his mistake. but this should be called cheating rather than rape. >>> someone said that women feel shy or disgusted to go to courts saying that >>> she was raped. but I dont agree to this. that women should have >>> immidiately >>> gone to the court when she was raped for the first time. >>> from my understanding, women dont go to courts because if this comes in >>> the >>> media and if everybody comes to know about that, nobody would marry her. >>> but >>> in this case, she was already married once, and there wasn't any matter >>> to >>> fear. >>> this is nothing but hipocracy at its peak. if he had married her, she >>> would >>> have never complained. here, he did not marry, hence it automatically >>> turned >>> into rape case. rape is rape. women can change the situation however they >>> want. it was not rape before 2 years, then how can it be called rape now? >>> I am not in anyway supporting the rapists. but just speaking about this >>> case. >>> I wonder what was the proof for the marriage promise that he had made. >>> was there any recording or document? or judge just believed her oral >>> words? >>> I can understand the psychology of the female members on this list. >>> they can't speak against that aledged female victim, because females >>> should >>> support the females. but the fact is that men are often exploited legally >>> due to the biased laws. >>> someone said that father raping his own daughter, brother raping his own >>> sister comes to light after so many years. this happens because the girl >>> will be minor in that situation. in this case, girl was not minor. she >>> had >>> >>> 8 >>> year old child, which means she was matured enough. >>> so, as mahajan sir said, both of them are equally culprits in this case. >>> the best way to escape from the discussion is to just say, 'how can we >>> talk >>> when we are not in that situation'. >>> anyway, I feel that boy should had kept up to his promise, then it would >>> have been never called rape. but this punishment is very harsh on him, >>> who >>> was not 100% culprit. >>> >>> On 7/26/17, avinash shahi via Ai <ai@accessindia.inclusivehabitat.in> >>> wrote: >>>> http://www.hindustantimes.com/gurgaon/gurgaon-blind-banker-gets-10-yea >>>> r-jail-for-raping-blind-woman/story-xQAJGpWmso2ioCesDHV2UM.html >>>> >>>> A Gurgaon district court on Monday awarded 10 years rigorous >>>> imprisonment to a blind man, a trainee probationary officer at a >>>> public sector bank, who was found guilty of raping a 33-year-old blind >>>> widow repeatedly on the pretext of marriage. >>>> >>>> The court also imposed a penalty on convict Saurabh Kapoor, 35, who >>>> was convicted of rape under Section 376 of the IPC. >>>> >>>> Additional Sessions Judge Rajni Yadav, while pronouncing the quantum >>>> of sentence, said that given the inhumanity of the act, it was >>>> required to impose upon the convict substantive and stern sentence >>>> that would commensurate with the gravity of the offence and also serve >>>> as an example to others. >>>> >>>> It is to be noted that since both the victim and the accused were >>>> blind, the court had relied upon ‘voice identification’ that helped >>>> the woman to identify Kapoor, a resident of Mayur Vihar in Delhi. >>>> >>>> On the pretext of meeting an advocate, Kapoor had taken the victim on >>>> May 30, 2015, to a guest house in Gurgaon and raped her there for the >>>> first time. He later continued to abuse her, promising marriage. >>>> >>>> The victim, who has an eight-year-old daughter, worked in a private >>>> company in 2015, when the incident happened. She is currently >>>> unemployed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Public prosecutor Arvind Sharma said that the convict tried to seek >>>> leniency from the court on account of his blindness. >>>> >>>> “The accused also argued that he is a government servant and highly >>>> qualified, but all these arguments were rejected by the court, which >>>> awarded him 10 years of imprisonment,” said Sharma, adding that the >>>> court has imposed a penalty of Rs 10,000, out of which Rs 8,000 would >>>> go to the victim. The remaining Rs 2000 would go to the state. If the >>>> accused fail to pay the fine, he will face one more year of >>>> imprisonment. >>>> >>>> The judge, in her order, also stated that undue sympathy to impose >>>> inadequate sentence to the accused would do more harm as it will >>>> undermine the public confidence. >>>> >>>> “Keeping in view the offence committed by the convict, I am not >>>> inclined to take a lenient view against him and release him on >>>> probation. He has raped a young woman who was helpless, defenceless, >>>> vulnerable and an easy prey who trusted the convict so much that she >>>> surrendered herself to him. He used, violated and exploited her body,” >>>> the court said. >>>> >>>> District attorney Lal Singh Yadav said the court has given a strong >>>> message to the society. “The convict had sexually exploited the victim >>>> on the pretext of marriage,” he said. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Avinash Shahi >>>> Doctoral student at Centre for Law and Governance JNU >>>> Disclaimer: >>>> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking >>>> of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its >>>> veracity; >>>> >>>> 2. 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