Hey Suresh,

Yeah no worries like I said, in the end, I thought a users@ list made sense for 
OODT, and I think
for Airavata it probably does too. But I just wanted to pass that info along as 
it was passed to me :)

Cheers,
Chris

On May 5, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Suresh Marru wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> On May 5, 2012, at 8:05 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
> 
>>>> While I have no strong opinion either way on this, in the past, the Apache 
>>>> sages that mentored my projects
>>>> have suggested that having a users list in Incubation is pretty much net 
>>>> zero value -- just wanted to pass this
>>>> along.
>>>> 
>>>> And to be perfectly clear, I'm +1 to have a users mailing list. But wanted 
>>>> you to know what others have told me
>>>> in the past about it during Incubation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks Chris for chiming in. Can you also please also pass the downsides 
>>> you were told of having a user list during incubation? On a quick surfing 
>>> through incubator websites I see very less projects are having user lists 
>>> but couldn't get why. 
>> 
>> No problem. The advice I got was that during Incubation you're not sure 
>> exactly who your users are -- that is, a lot
>> of times they are the devs themselves b/c there is so much momentum and 
>> change, compared to a TLP.
>> 
>> I think it honestly depends on the type/style of project, but I did get the 
>> whole point of not adding "yet another list" YAL. :)
>> It requires more moderators, more overhead for infra@, etc.
> 
> Currently the initial target audience for airavata are project groups and I 
> can see there will one or two developers in those groups but many more want 
> just be users. I feel the dev mail-list traffic might loose attention, a low 
> traffic and focused user discussions might make these users speak up and 
> provide valuable feedback. This is just an optional thought and I would like 
> to hear others opinions as well on what might work better for projects like 
> Airavata. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Suresh
> 


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