On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Lawrence Wagerfield <
lawre...@dmz.wagerfield.com> wrote:

> Hi Patrik,
>
> Thanks for the info. I saw the Google Compute Engine post only last week -
> possibly when I was searching for this answer!
>
> You mentioned the gossip interval and how the time would grow
> logarithmically - are these the main two things to consider?
>
> Is there at least a *very rough* algorithm I can use to estimate this
> time, highlighting the most significant variables?
>

Here is something you can play with:
http://www.serfdom.io/docs/internals/simulator.html
but it might not match what you will see in a real Akka cluster.

/Patrik


>
> Greatly appreciate the feedback,
> Lawrence
>
> On Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:21:53 PM UTC+1, Patrik Nordwall wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Lawrence Wagerfield <
>> lawr...@dmz.wagerfield.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How can I determine the maximum length of time cluster membership state
>>> will be inconsistent for across an Akka Cluster, assuming no further
>>> membership changes beyond the point we start measuring?
>>>
>> We have performed tests of this in a cluster with many nodes. The results
>> are presented in these blog posts:
>> http://typesafe.com/blog/running-a-2400-akka-nodes-
>> cluster-on-google-compute-engine
>> http://typesafe.com/blog/starting-up-a-1000-node-akka-
>> cluster-in-4-minutes-on-google-compute-engine
>>
>>> I imagine this will depend on several variables: some configurable
>>> within Akka, and some that are infrastructural.
>>>
>> Yes, that is right. For example the gossip interval.
>>
>>> Given these variables, is there a way of calculating the worse-case in
>>> seconds?
>>>
>> The theoretical expected dissemination time would grow logarithmic with
>> the size of the cluster, but we have implemented several optimizations
>> compared to pure random gossip. You have to test and measure.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Patrik
>>
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