Couldn't we add a watchdog feature to Cluster Sharding itself?

Heiko


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 9:25 AM, Patrik Nordwall
<patrik.nordw...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Jeroen,
>
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 10:09 PM, Jeroen Gordijn <jeroen.gord...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> When rebalancing a Shard, the old shard is stopped and a new shard is
>> started on another node, after which all messages for that Shard will be
>> send to the new node. When a message is received, the actor will be
>> created. When Akka-persistence is used the Actor will reload all its events
>> and restore state before processing the new message. But if no message is
>> sent, the actor will not be created. This can be problematic when the actor
>> is has some active state with retry mechanisme or timeout. Is my
>> understanding correct?
>>
>
> Your reasoning is correct. I think you can implement that by letting the
> actor schedule a keep-alive message to itself, but via the ShardRegion.
> Normally that will be local only message roundtrip via the scheduler and
> local ShardRegion, but after rebalancing it will delegate the message to
> the new node and thereby wake up the actor again.
>
> What this doesn't solve is when a node crashes. An actor living on that
> node will not be automatically started somewhere else, until a message is
> sent to it. To solve that I think you have to let the actor register itself
> to a a few (for redundancy) watchdog actors, which watch the actor and know
> how to send the wake-up message via ClusterSharding.
>
> Does that make sense?
>
> Cheers,
> Patrik
>
>
>>
>> Is there a way to actively restore the Shard state when the shard is
>> moved to another node? One problem I can see with this is when going back
>> to less nodes. This means that the shards will be rebalanced, but
>> potentially giving memory problems. This will cause rebalancing and memory
>> problems on the next node and eventually putting the whole cluster down.
>> Starting the cluster will be also problematic for the same reason.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeroen
>>
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