Is LinuxFromScratch already taken? Or is that too pretentious since this is
actually just ALFS?

On Sun, Apr 21, 2019, 1:20 PM Pierre Labastie <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 21/04/2019 18:07, Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 11:37 AM Pierre Labastie
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've read a little more about this [1], and wants to summarize here
> what I
> >> understand. Note that I've not checked that what I say is valid in
> countries
> >> other than US (I've just seen yesterday, when looking at W3m, that a
> true open
> >> source license is impossible in Japan). jhalfs has been based in US
> from its
> >> beginning, so let us consider it is under the US law:
> >> - All contributors are copyright holders. There's no need to register
> to be a
> >> copyright holder, and there is no notion of a minimum contribution to
> be a
> >> copyright holder. Actually, all contributors have made substantial
> >> contributions, so the point about minimal contribution is not relevant
> here.
> >> - If there is no license, nobody has right to use, distribute, modify,
> parts
> >> he or she has not written, unless given explicit permission! Even other
> >> contributors have no right to modify what is already written! This is
> the aim
> >> of the license to relax such permissions.
> >> - Jeremy, the initiator of the project has chosen the GPLv2 license, so
> all
> >> contributions are under this license. Changing to another license is
> possible
> >> only if the new license is compatible with the previous one, unless the
> >> copyright holders agree to change to an incompatible license. Here, the
> only
> >> compatible license is GPLv3. AGPLv3 is not (too restrictive), LGPLv3 is
> not
> >> (too permissive), and other common licenses (MIT, Apache, Mozilla) are
> too
> >> permissive too. At this point, we have two possibilities:
> >>     - go to GPLv3 (or keep GLPv2, but it is not well suited to modern
> ways of
> >>       collaborating).
> >>     - Ask the seven contributors whether they accept a more permissive
> license
> >>       (I would push for MIT. Other licenses are not very sensible for
> jhalfs).
> >
> > My preference would be to try this first, seeking permission to move
> > to MIT. If that fails what issue is there with keeping GPLv2? I
> > believe a move to Github does not really impact the license and I'm
> > not really a huge fan of GPLv3, although admittedly it's been a while
> > since I looked at its details. Overall, I think it's just more complex
> > that it needs to be. I like the simplicity of MIT or BSD licenses.
> >
> >> - Gihub has two types of repo:
> >>     - private, means a few collaborators (maximum of 4 with free
> github) can
> >>       access the repository, but it is not visible to anybody else
> >>     - public, means it is visible to anybody, and anybody can be given
> commits
> >>       right, but there are again to possibilities:
> >>        - owned by an individual, who has all the administrative rights.
> >>        - owned by an organization. Means there may be several owners,
> which
> >>          may give various rights to users (administration, commit, etc,
> I've
> >>          not read it in full yet)
> >
> > Private would make it hard to collaborate and I think kind of defeats
> > the purpose. Given the history of ALFS, I'd say an organization (you
> > can create one and invite others to be admins) makes the most sense.
>
> OK, I'll send a mail to all the other five contributors (I think I can
> consider having Jeremy's agreement, and mine). I agree with creating an
> organization. Ideas for name?
>
> Pierre
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