Hi John.
I have a podcaste doen by Neal Ewars, who is himself blind, and I'm
currently uploading it for you to Sendspace.
I will send you the download link as soon as it's up.
Very best wishes.
Andy.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Heath via Groups.Io" <gus1888=yahoo....@groups.io>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2019 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Sorry for joining late, but I just realized that the recorder a friend
gave me is in fact the one you are talking, the 14. Anyone know where I
can get operating instructions? Looks like a wonderful solid machine.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hamit Campos
Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2019 9:51 AM
To: all-audio@groups.io
Subject: Re: [all-audio] Olympus Ls-14
Yeah the most epic thing the LS-14 has is smart mode. I like smart mode
always came in handy. For those that don't know, what happens in smart
mode is you press record. The mics open up at a low level and thus you
may not hear much if at all on yuor headphones. But the machine is
listening. So the idea is you then if it's a practised thing make the
loudest sound you're gonna record for this recording. Than as you do
this you press record again or if it counts down you let it run out and
it re-opens the mics at a proper level for the loudest sound you are
having it hear. Too bad the LS-100 didn't have this and too bad the 14
doesn't have XLRs or phantum power for true studio mics. But I did and
still kinda do use it with my AT-8022. I like how it's mics are spread
apart. At 90 degrees the LS-14 I find gives me a wider immige than the
XY H6 mics. Meh even at 120 because of how the H6 mics are pointed they
are wider but not spacious like the Olympus mics. I did suggest making
an A B peace for the H6 and 5 now they're doing snap off peaces. I even
had them look up the LS-14 to see how the mics are. But again I don't
worry much. I use my AT-8022. And I really would like to get a
independent pare of mics. like the new SE Electronics SE7 mics. They're
199$ a factory matched stereo pair. You will have to get the XLR cables
your self though.
On 2/10/2019 12:02 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I’m very glad you mentioned the Olympus LS-14 actually.
I tried to get hold of one last year but had to settle for the LS-P4 - no
problem there -.
One did come up on eBay just recently so I snapped it up.
In a few days I will be able to see what the LS-14 offers and of course I’ll
be using the excellent review Neal Ewers did on the machine as a
reference.
Pity about not being able to use rechargeable batteries with the LS-14 so
I’ll use one of the Powerbanks I have instead.
On 10 Feb 2019, at 3:46 pm, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah well 48 KHZ 24 bits is the web standard anyways. I guess I'm just
coming from another perspective I heard on another of Scott's shows.
Where if you record in 96 let's say, when you resample you'll get a
better 48 24 recording. I've even used 44 thousand 100 16 bits CD audio
on mine just because the LS-14 can't play anything elase in mono. It has
to be CD quality for it to work in mono. Which I was confused by when I
got it. Because all the DMs I'd had before this even playeed 48 16 in
mono though they didn't record that. But oh well. I can't wait to hear
some F8N samples.
On 2/9/2019 9:51 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I chose 96K 24-bit because not all functions of the Zoom F8N support
higher bit rates, Auto Mix for example but nevertheless 96K is a damn
good rate to be using with 24 bit.
I can understand where the engineer is coming from in a lot of ways
setting the sampling rate at 48KHZ.
Whilst I prefer higher myself a lot of computers would probably have
trouble handling any more than 48K depending on the software and Sound
Card being used so that would be one factor to take into consideration.
With the Mac which I use most of the time this isn’t a problem.
The other point being here is that you’re making live recordings and
you probably won’t be wanting to master them.
So back to the recorder itself.
I’ve been going through the menu options as I’ve been telling the list
over the last month or so.
The first 2 options in the memory are “Finder” and “Medadata For Next
Take”.
The Finder allows you to search for content within folders on the SD
card or cards if you have more than one installed.
I’ve not examined this option but will do in the future when I work out
how to connect a Keyboard to the F8N though even then without speech
there seems little point.
On the other hand Enter Metadata for Next Take may be slightly useable
with a keyboard. No, I won’t get any feedback however I should be able
to remember the order in which the metadata is presented thus I can
move through the fields etc.
The manual for the F8N gives specific keyboard commands to do just
that.
The next 2 options in the menu system are Input and Output respectively
and I’ll be working on those next week.
On 10 Feb 2019, at 7:48 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Ah yes I forgot that. Yes the higher the quality, the more memory
you'll
need. Especially if you're also planning to go multi channal.
On 2/9/2019 3:28 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
I can’t argue with the statements below.
I actually have my F8N and other recorders set to 96K 24-bit but in
the end its up to the individual how they want things done.
One has to remember too that with higher bit rates then the bigger SD
memory card you’ll require.
So what given the Zoom F8N can take 2 512GB memory cards? Well the so
what comes to quite a bit of money to lay out if you wish to proceed
down that path.
On 10 Feb 2019, at 6:31 am, Hamit Campos <hamitcam...@gmail.com>
wrote:
h that's 1 of the things I've been putting to the test with my H6.
That whole the human ear can't hear super HD 96 KHZ or 192 KHZ 24
bits audio thing. Now if you think of it as a frequency responce
thing that should be true. Hell not only can't you hear it, most
condencers can't. But it's not necessarily a frequency thing.
Another ingenier on Scott Wilkinson's Home Theater Geeks show
explained it this way. Andy you were right. It's a resolution thig.
It's like being able to take 192 pictures per second. He compaired
it to the rappid fire camera shutter clicking you hear at
presidentual things or what not. The 24 bits gives you more open
dinamic range. Things don't over load and destort as easy I suppose
and you can get louder and quieter in 24 bits. Again someone help
out here if you wish I'm no real audio expert like Neal or this man
that helped you out Andy. But I'm just telling ya what I have heard
other experts say. I say again if I had an F8N best believe it bro
192 KHZ 24 bits is the first thing that gets set on it. Oh and on
your clip on mics. If they use the little head phone like plug they
won't use phantum. They use what's called plug in power. So you'll
need the Zoom XYH6 peace or even the XY H5 peace. Then connect them
to that.
On 2/9/2019 12:24 PM, Andy via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Dane and list.
Further to my last message a few weeks ago when I advised that I
had secured the assistance of my local bar maid to describe the
layout and functions of my Zoom F8N, and that I had also secured
assistance in setting my device up by the Radio Operations
Manager at BBC Radio Scotlands flagship at Pacific Quay.
Well guys all went very well indeed.
I recorded the bar maid on my old Olympus DS50, so I can return to
that as often as I need. The BBC engineer's visit was slightly
later than planned and I simply forgot all about making a
recording! Shame that.
Anyway Dane. You were right, the functionality is laid out very
simply and very tactilly and like you said, it's going to be a
piece of cake.
Although I was wanting him to set up 24 bit WAV at 192, he
recomended against this and droped to the standard of 40 or 48. He
stated that the human ear really could not tell the difference. I
just wanted it because it was there.
After he asked me of the kind of recording I did, he recommented
that tracks 1 through 4 should be on microphone and tracks 5
through 8 Line in.
Anyway I couldn't argue with a sound engineer of our capital radio
station, haha.
Anyway it's all done now and I intend to use my old X Y and Side
angle microphones to plug directly into the device for desk-top or
table-top recordings.
But it's a Field Recorder so I want to get out and about in the
streets and record things, so the clip-on microphones will be of
little use as the device will be in a sound bag.
So I'm looking for a good microphone that I can attach to my
jacket.
I would love to use my BSM Binaural microphones for this but I
don't know exactly how to do this. Obviously I'd need an adaptor
to take the small plug up to quarter of an inch. But would I need
Phantom power turned on, on that channel?
One thing is for sure I cannot walk through the streets of Glasgow
with a guide dog on my left, a sound bag hanging from my right and
me holding a microphone out in front of me. This is why I like the
BSm 9 Clip on microphones.
Any advice regarding how best to use my BSM binaural microphones
out of doors or an alternative type of body microphone that anyone
can recommend would be very helpful.
Very best wishes.
Andy.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: <all-audio@groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: [all-audio] To Dane and list
I’m not laughing and I’m very lucky I guess in that I’m curious and
I get some sighted assistance every now and then to give me a hand.
Firstly the Zoom F8N stands on 4 rubber feet which are placed on
the bottom of the recorder so you know where the bottom is by the
feel of the rubber feet.
The top is easily identified by 4 slotted screws that hold the
recorder into the rack mount.
There is a handle on each side of the recorder so when the recorder
is standing on its rubber feet these each handle will be protruding
from either side of the recorder.
The display of the recorder therefor is on the front left with the
control panel taking up the rest of the area on the front panel.
On the left hand side you have tracks 1 through 4 as XLR/TRS inputs
along with the 2 SD Card slots and the multi function USB port.
On the right hand side you have tracks 5 through 8 XLR/TRS inputs
along with the external power supply socket mini XLR out sockets, a
sub output socket and the headphones socket.
On the back from left to right there is the Zoom Capsule connector
which has a cover over it, 2 sockets which are for Time syncing
with a video camera and so on and the 9 volts DC power socket for
the supplied AC adapter.
At the bottom on the recorder at the back in the centre is the
screw to you losen to remove the battery compartment door so you
will have to turn the recorder upside down to insert batteries.
On 26 Jan 2019, at 11:34 am, Andy via Groups.Io
<meikle.aiden=btinternet....@groups.io> wrote:
Hi Dane and list.
Regarding my Zoom F8n, I managed to secure the assistance from the
BBC Radio Scotland's, radio Operations Manager today by phone and
I'm delighted that he is willing to set up my Zoom F8n for me.
This is fantastic because I don't know anyone up here in the
wilderness of Scotland who could help me out.
So I'm meeting him a his work in 2 weeks time and although the
setting up should be simple for him, I'm still very unsure of the
device I've purchased.
I'm hoping to get my local bar maid to describe the recorder and
it's buttons and also the Zoom bag that I also purchased and of
course I've also got Youtube.
But I really got to ask Dane this silly question.
I've unboxed my Zoom and it looks as though it stands on it's left
side vertically, however the rather large and clumsy Zoom F8n bag
I purchased will only take the device laying on it's back.
So how would anyone see the display on the right edge if it's in a
bag?
Dane, I'm sure will be having a good old laugh at me, as I've had
the device for about 3 months now.
So please dane, be gentle with me, hahaha!
Very best wishes.
Andy.
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