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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 2 03:51:18 -0800 2005 ------- So - here is my spiel - as delivered to caolan as to why IMHO a containment based scheme is better in the long run than a springs approach: Shared * both need a widget measurement API - 'give me your preferred size' Containment: * use the existing hierarchical structure in .rc files to good effect * should thus allow the removal of explicit code to construct & initialize incidental widgets: containers, labels etc. * hence saves code-size & also saves a load of numeric identifiers & hence lookups * consistent with modern UI layout - XUL (html+) of course is containment based, gtk+ & Java are containment based etc. etc. Any future migration path would most likely be to a containment system, which could easily be automated from .?RC -> whatever but not (easily) with a spring approach. Springs: * easier to generate the UI designer changes * requires more explicit code to add springs * an evolutionary dead-end, containment is the future :-) As it happens - the dialog implementations are quite heavy & chunky code-wise already, and shrinking that is IMHO a good idea [removing loads of explicit chained constructor function calls for widget setup] - also, having a migration path to a future containment based (XUL?) layout engine is wise IMHO. ie. springs looks to me like the quick-hack solution to retrofit a dying toolkit, adding containment gives a cleaner, more sustainable direction, allows some nice code size shrinkage & eases future migration :-) Either way - no doubt I missed a few pros of the springs sol'n - no doubt Caolan will oblige with his view. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]