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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 22 01:24:40 -0800 2006 ------- This important issue seems to be about four years old now. The original poster mentioned Australian and US standards for documents, and I'm trying to conform to the Finnish standards. The built-in bullet style is horrible and completely useless, and working around it is difficult to do consistently. Our solution has been to disable the list/numbering buttons in the toolbar altogether, and define a new button that runs a macro that sets the current style as "List 1" or "Numbering 1". However, this doesn't allow toggling the list/numbering as the default list/numbering button does. A quick solution could be a user setting for the default list and numbering styles, either to a numbering style or a paragraph style with a numbering. This way a change in document format might not be necessary. A more proper solution might allow binding both a list and a numbering style to a paragraph style, but so that it is not active automatically, as is the case currently. For example, have both a "List style" and "Numbering style" selections in the Numbering tab. Have a check box in front of them, "Use list style automatically" and "Use numbering style automatically". Make the check boxes exclusive (but both can be off). The negative side with this solution is that l/n styles do not have paragraph settings such as margins, which might be desirable in many cases. For example, "Text body" paragraphs usually have bottom margin, but list item paragraphs often should not. Another solution might be switching the paragraph style to some defined style, either as a document setting or a style-specific setting. This would allow different paragraph settings in the lists and numbering. Toggling list off could be difficult with this approach; the program could look upwards for the previous non-list paragraph style, and then toggle to that. Yet another solution could use conditional styles. For example, when list/numbering is toggled on in Text body style, it would use a list/numbering paragraph style defined as conditional in the Text body style. Also this would allow different paragraph settings in the lists and numbering. Then there's the question of paragraph settings at ends of a list. For example, the first list item often has a bigger top margin and the last bigger bottom margin than other list items. So if, for example, the above conditional style solution would be used, there could be separate conditions for "First list item", "List item", and "Last list item", so that one could bind them to appropriate list paragraph styles. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]