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                      CC|''                        |'fst,mmp'
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             Assigned to|mmp                       |john_johnson
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                  Status|UNCONFIRMED               |NEW
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              Issue type|DEFECT                    |ENHANCEMENT
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                Priority|P3                        |P4
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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov  9 09:43:21 -0800 
2006 -------
Hi John, thank you for your very detailed explanations. That saved me some time
to understand what this issue is about. Let me first add some details that are
maybe not quite clear between you and Frank.

a) Excel does not remove the *file* when the last sheet is moved to another
document. But the document window closes and keeps the file on the harddrive
untouched (=same state as when opened or last saved.)
b) OOo Calc does not remove the sheet when there is just one sheet left. In this
case the check box in the Move/Copy dialog is marked and disabled. That means
that the last sheet cannot be moved -- it can only be copied.

You main concern is that OOo's behaviour is confusing to the user. Let's -- for
a moment - compare apples with oranges:
In Excel, under some circumstances, a document window closes without
confirmation alert, neither was the closing triggered by any close menu command.
Hmm? What happened to my window? What is the state of the file? I am confused. 
In OOo Calc the Move/Copy command really moves my sheets from document A to B as
long as a sheet reamains in document A. Strange, sometimes the command moves the
sheets, sometimes it copies the sheets. I am confused.

Let's focus on OOo. Your concern is that users try to move a sheet a second time
because it was obviously not moved -- it is still in the source document, right?

>From my point of view this is a visual feedback problem
1) because a disabled checkbox is easy to overlook
2) because the created sheet in the target document is to selected.

We will not change the 1st behaviour -- this would get us into the MSExcel
confusion.
But we might change the 2nd aspect. If the created sheet is selected (visible in
the target document) then I expect less confusion on the user side.

No one does the math ("1-1=1"). But everyone cares for her data.
Let the user decide when to close and save a document; and make it obvious what
happens by bringing the sheet in the target document to front.

What do you think?
Matthias // User Experience Engineer

Set prio to 4, Type to Enhancement

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