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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 16 15:31:50 -0800 2006 ------- -- I agree with all discussion to date, re critical need for outliner (a.k.a. idea processor). An idea processor is next level up from word processor. Apparent lack of this capability in OOo kept me using MSW much longer than I would otherwise have done. -- Below are comments to summarize the above & synthesize with my thoughts/experience over the last few decades of using various outliner capabilities. (MSW & Power Point not as good as some earlier, DOS based applications.) Much of the infrastructure to support capabilities as described would appear to already be in the woof and warp of OOo. Other code elements have been out there for a long time, such as for the ubiquitous tree structure file exploration viewer paradigm (see "Methods to open/collapse" below). -- The outlining function is a means to help create, manipulate, and edit ideas and how they are structured into a whole. The word processor function provides for the expansion of the ideas into text (the "leaves" on the outline "tree" structure). Together they from a creativity suite in combination with other OOo components, such as text formatting, embedding of images, charts, graphs, diagrams, tables, etc. ((Once a document is created to the authors' satisfaction, the availability of publishing capabilities are important (in various forms such as print, html, pdf, LaTeX, etc.) -- but that's another subject.)) -- Methods to open/collapse of outline sections should include: --- by clicking on navigator open/close indicator/symbol/icon (normally +/- sign in most viewers); --- by clicking on outline level toolbar indicator (i.e. all sections to level 'x'); and, --- by scrolling thru using cursor up/down (where all sections above & below currently active one collapse; current one opens to level of currently active line) -- this is for reviewing overall flow of text to ensure good logic and idea transitions. --- possibility to use for structured programming (ex: Pascal, LISP) & XML exploration/editing/creation -- Outline numbering/labeling schema should include (at a minimum): --- "decimal" (a.k.a. "legal") numbering -- already used internally by navigator for reference) -- excellent for reference for collaboration about a document; --- standard formats used in school/education (ex: levels indicated by Roman Numerals, Capital letters, Arabic numbers, lower case letter, use of parenthesis, etc.) --- "roll your own" (individually created schema that can be shared with others in the spirit of Open Software) -- Content manipulation capability should include: --- collapsing an entire section to move/delete/copy/paste en masse by grabbing/highlighting the section header. --- promote/demote of single lines or en masse with lower level sections under them --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
