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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Sep 13 18:57:34 +0000 
2007 -------
@bm

First of all, thanks for working on this issue. :-)

>1. OOo is for free, it is open-source. Everybody can participate in its
>development. I admit that getting started with OOo development is not easy, but
>it is possible, and there have been patch submissions for bugs and features in
>the chart already. And nobody who wrote anything into this issue can blame us
>for not dealing with this feature for five years. If this was important to you,
>you would have had five years to implement this yourself. Should be no problem
>(according to those people).

The fact that OpenOffice.org is free doesn't count much. SUN decided to
distribute it for free, and it is not a justification for lack of feature or
slow development.

Telling that if nobody added this feature, the feature is not important is not
exact. Many users have not enough knowledge nor time to learn to add features to
OOo, but an expert coder should not have many issues. The algorithms are out
there in all languages, and efficiently implemented in various libraries, among
which there's GSL.

>2. OOo is developed in a community. That means that there is no "us" and 
>"you". 
>"We" do not have the duty to do anything "you" want. "We all" have to work
>together in a constructive way. As long as all the (two) developers for the
>chart are payed by Sun Microsystems, it should also be clear that the influence
>of this company to decide what features are implemented in which order, is
>quite high.

There evidently is a "you" (developers) and a "us" (users). And a lot of OOo
users can't code, but you are right, we should work together. To do this
however, it is necessary to communicate. And if it's true no one suggested how
to implement this feature, no one asked for ideas and tried to communicate with
users' community, so the responsibility is on both sides.

I can understand that SUN influence is high, but if they ignored the chart
module for such a long time, they clearly have some issues in their decision
process. Just consider these two points:

- The XY plot is the most used in schools, and in a XY plot usually sets have
different number of elements. Trend lines and error bars are widely used too.
The lack of these functionalities directly excluded OOo from the adoption in
schools and universities, but also in labs and scientific institutes.

- Having functionalities required in schools is having a product which probably
will be adopted on a wider scale, because if people use it at school, they will
use it for their work too.

>3. Most of the people in the world are not scientists. Most of the people
>working with OOo don't know what a regression curve is. Even more people don't
>know what R^2 is. Just keep this in mind, when thinking about priorities of
>features.

Right. But most people go to school. Most people, at least once in their life
plays with plots, curves, analytical geometry, experimental data. It's quite
common to do lab experiments in high school for example, and to have to process
small amount of data, plot them to compare their trends and so on. A good
spreadsheet can be used in various ways for educational purposes.

With kind regards.

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