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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 7 16:19:52 +0000 2007 ------- > So, let me say that I have a very _clear_ opinion on that. Me, too. > Let me give a short example. Ideally the action of compiling a C++ file is > only reported as progress, e.g.: > > compiling foo.cxx ... > > But, in case the action failed, it certainly needs to report the reason and > its context, e.g.: > > COMPILE ERROR #123 for foo.cxx: > g++ -I.. -I.... foo.cxx -o foo.o .... Uh, now. PLEASE not. That what the Linux kernel does and I *hate* it. Most of "normal" build systems *do* show the commands they run and they *should* for transparency. > IMHO, this verbosity thing is very important. This is what new developers see > the first time they start hacking on OOo. One or the other may remember how > Linux building looked like in the old days and how it got its verbosity under > control. We need to do the same. I disagree. (I presume you mean Linux building = Linux kernel building) What Linux does is the first time I change if I compile a Linux kernel by hand. I also maintain some stuff in Debian which does that and where I patches verbosity in again. I am at all for removing *unneeded* verbosity (deliver, "Executing shell macro", (maybe) tar xf*v*z but some info the compiler line showa *are* important (gcc-X.Y if overriden, defines getting properly passed etc). So *if* you want to decide to do what the kernel does, pleas discouple that with the rest. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]