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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Jan 25 13:42:32 +0000 2008 ------- The A, B, C cases are forgetting the situation where one wants to use PDF as a simple "read-only" vector graphics format, like one does with pdfLaTeX (unless this is incorporated in case B). Cases A, B and C add many complications to this (rather simple) goal due to the need to extract at least some elementary layout information. Hence, in my opinion, trying to satisfy the goals of A, B, and C, has the rather high price of keeping on postponing the much more simplistic usage of PDF import above. At first sight the functionality might appear unnecessary. The very PDF-Import wiki, for instance says: "For now we uses a workaround making from the PDF-page a EPS with tiff-preview who can now be placed in a OO-doc. The previeuw is low-resolution but the EPS is printed in its original resolution" seeming to suggest that "for now" this is more than acceptable. In my opinion it is not, for a few reasons: 1) It is not true that the EPS is printed in its original resolution. At least not always. If you try to print it on "virtual paper" via an export to PDF -> distribution as a PDF -> print from acrobat reader or xpd, you will see that the eps image gets in the exported PDF as a low resolution bitmap. Too sad. 2) If you want to import a PDF image with no desire to edit it, but just to use it in a presentation (impress) then you get an extremely poor presentation. 3) A very easy way to get a hi-quality equation editor in openoffice would be to use LaTeX as a formatting engine, to produce pdf versions of the formulas. But this is not possible now since we have no idea at how to import the resulting PDF. And so the creation of smart packages like eqe or OOoLaTeX is hindered by the fact that they need to produce bitmaps or at best emf files (that have a thousand font-related problems, since they do not embed neither fonts nor encodings). 4) A very easy way to get a hi-quality image generator in openoffice would be to use Asymptote as a code-2-image translator. However asymptote outputs pdf, so we have the same problem as above (just worsened since Asy cannot output emf). So please, even before thinking at A, B and C, give us a plain hi-quality readonly importer for PDF graphics (e.g. store PDF in the opendocument files, render it on screen via xpdf, translate it into postscript for printing via xpdf again). --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]