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User vtdiy changed the following: What |Old value |New value ================================================================================ Status|CLOSED |UNCONFIRMED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution|DUPLICATE | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Edit Record Changes preven|Edit Record Changes Review |ts professional use |ing Method Prevents Profes | |sional Use -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Feb 22 19:58:05 +0000 2008 ------- This is NOT a duplicate of Issue 24585. That issue merely requests a change in the toolbar menu. That would absolutely NOT satisfy the problems we have outlined in this issue. It is also NOT a duplicate of issues requesting a location of "comments" to the margin in a balloon. ----- It is not about editorial comments feature in MSWord, which are different than editorial changes. This issue requests a change to the Open Office > method for reviewing (and accepting or rejecting) prior recorded edits. < To reiterate, the MSWord method allows locating these recorded edits visually, inline, during a read, clicking on them inline, and accepting or rejecting them. This a natural and normal way to review an already edited document, and accept or reject proposed changes. The editor normally does a read-through of a paper document in this way. It allows either skipping around the document, or reading it sequentially with a What-You-See-Is-What-Is-Proposed-For-Change immediate recognition and approval functionality. Open Office uses a completely different non-intuitive and difficult methodology involving table of edits that is totally separate from the document itself (like an Undo list in a CAD program) arranged by date. This table does not indicate where in the document any particular edit is. Clicking on one edit in this table at random, autoscrolls the document to that edit. That is the only connection between the two, and the only way to find an edit for approval. This is completely backwards from normal editing procedure, and a useless method of reviewing and accepting or rejecting edits in a read-through. The document is subserviant to the table of edits. The table of edits moves the document around. A total inversion of a user's priority. An editor does not want to leave the document, take a stab at an irrelevant historical list of edits, and experiment to see where it scrolls the document to, so that he or she can narrow down the possibilities through subsequent entry trials, hit or miss, until the "right" entry is found. An editor wants to read the document, see the change in it, (usually made by someone else, since there are many people involved in any professional publictaion -- authors, copy editors, proofreaders, fact checkers, etc) click on that change to accept or reject it. Done. In this case, Microsoft has it right, and it is a standard expectation. Wish it was otherwise, but editors don't mess around with software functionality issues. If Open Office Write complicates their job (and in this case it makes it impossible), they will not only refuse to use it, they will ban documents created by it from their publication for internal use and freelancers alike.Even if the (.doc) document itself does not carry the functionality (the editing program does that). As copy editors and writers, we have already experienced this personally. In some cases we are not allowed now to use it even for initial copy, by decree, from the publisher. It is critical that this be addressed before wider use of these editorial bans makes it impossble to use Open Office professionally. I am very much a supporter of open software, and have contributed financially, assisted with documentation, and also assisted users with issues in forums. Open Office has made an invaluable contribution to the movment and advanced the wider acceptance of many open operating systems. I would hate to see this acceptance stifled by he publishing industry over an addressable issue like this. I hope you will re-consider lumping this issue with the others. It would certainly not be satisfied by merely changing a menu. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]