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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu May 8 14:56:10 +0000 2008 ------- SOME EMPIRICAL TEST RESULTS: I've been doing some further experiments with the business of images misaligning and come up with something meaningful, I *think*. Overall, the misalignment occurs when the document is repaginated. Somehow, OOo repaginates in a way such that text positions and images are moved around AFTER they have been manually set. I can also create misalignment manually, just by adding text to an .odt document. Word by default, and I think OOo by default, anchor images to a paragraph. However, when adding text ahead of images, or worse, an image, the text below it pushes down as it should, but the images can't seem to follow the movement. For some reason they lose their anchor to the paragraph they were set to? In fact, many times the anchor, which is set to display, is GONE. Not lost in the background, whatever, but just not there. This will sometimes result in an image showing its bottom half at the top of the page, the top half lost above the page and not visible on the preceding page. That image can not be moved down to the previouslyu linked paragraph: it jumps back up to be only half shown at the very top every time. The ONLY way I've found to fix that is to change the anchor from Paragraph to Page. THEN I can successfully place the image wherever I want it, on THAT page, whre it belongs. But unfortunately, after that, the image can be moved freely up and down the page during repagination, meaning it won't stay anchored to the paragraph that discusses it. So, technically, the writer wants to put the anchor back to "para" so it will stay near the correct para, but then the susceptibility to serious misalignement returns. Apparently, and TOCs make this situation worse, documents are background repaginated even AFTER they have been properly set up by the author and the document looks just fine. WHY that repagination should move anything around, I can't imagine, since it was correct when I last left the document and Saved it. It's a bit less, but I'm seeing this occur now when creating PDF documents. The half an image at the top of a page in particular is occurring in the longer PDF documents, "longer" meaning about 30 to 50 pages. What's frustrating about that is, when you go back to the original documents to "repair" the positioning problem, everything looks fine there. It's almost like the images are transferred first, and then the text is slipped in, letting the images ... no that can't be; the anchors wouldn't work at all that way. Hmm. I'll quit second-guessing, but these above results are repeatable and most any file more than a few pages long with graphics embedded will demo what I'm talking about. I think manually being able to create them in a .odt file must be indicative of something though and the PDF issue must be similar. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]