To comment on the following update, log in, then open the issue: http://www.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=93876 Issue #|93876 Summary|spellcheck phrase when part should fail otherwise Component|Word processor Version|OOo 2.4.0 Platform|PC URL| OS/Version|Linux Status|UNCONFIRMED Status whiteboard| Keywords| Resolution| Issue type|FEATURE Priority|P3 Subcomponent|editing Assigned to|mru Reported by|nicklevinson
------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Sep 14 07:34:04 +0000 2008 ------- For Spellcheck, a word should be any string including one with a hard or soft space in the middle. We might describe these as phrases, but they aren't always that. Linguists count a string as a word whether it's set solid, hyphenated, or with a space, because they behave grammatically like words. Some of them should not be approved by a spell checker unless all parts are present. Common instances include names. More than one space might occur. Examples: von der Lippe (a family name) stare decisis (a U.S. legal principle) I looked in 4 good print dictionaries. None of them has _decisis_. None of them has _der_ as a separate word other than as an abbreviation. Only one has _von_ and 3 don't; and the one that has it puts it into the context of personal names. Writer's Spellcheck doesn't recognize _decisis_. However, I did not look in a legal dictionary per se for _decisis_ by itself. One authority on whether a word can have a space inside it is Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English Language Unabridged (Merriam-Webster), Explanatory Notes, section 1.1 (at page 16a), and The Writing of Compounds, sections 1.1 and 1.2 (at page 30a). Since Writer's Spellcheck does accept _von_ and _der_, it seems likely they were included because of their use with other strings, and not because of their use in isolation. The better method would be to include them separately only if they would be encountered with different neighbors, otherwise to include them only as parts of words that are spelled with intervening spaces. A word counted for good spelling does not have to be a word as defined by word wrap. The space that might be included in a word should be either hard or soft. As an experiment, I typed "stare decisis" (without quote marks and with a soft space) into an unsaved document and added it as a word to the standard user-defined dictionary. Nonetheless, when I ran the spellcheck (by F7), _decisis_ was displayed in the dialog as Not in dictionary, so that _stare decisis_ was not automatically accepted. I'm using OOo Writer 2.4.0 without Java Runtime Environment on Linux Fedora Core 4 on a Pentium 4 laptop. I didn't see this feature. Sources: von der Lippe's name is at <http://www.valley.net/~townsend/Lippe.html>, as accessed 9-13-08. Dictionaries: W3 (above); Shorter OED ([4th ed.]); American Heritage (3d ed.); Random House Webster's Unabridged (2d ed.). Somewhat related: Issue 12541. Thank you. -- Nick --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]