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------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Oct  5 09:34:58 +0000 
2008 -------
In September 2008 I wrote: 

> The (May 2008) steps to reproduce are vaguely familiar to me, I
> might have reported something similar (probably not identical)
> that seemed to affect OOo of that era _only after_ a crash …

Ah, now I realise why I couldn't find my report in the openoffice.org area. 

http://bugzilla.neooffice.org/bug.php?op=show&bugid=3145 

*** crash following cancellation of document recovery ***

leads to 
http://bugzilla.neooffice.org/bug.php?op=show&bugid=3144

> soffice.bin crashes when applying a bullet, or 
> scrolling through a fonts menu

After first pointing the finger of suspcion at APE, Silk and other 
hacks/enhancements, the bug there was closed with 
this note: 

> The fact that the crashing stopped after cleaning the font
> caches and disabling certain fonts is consistent with the
> location of the crash (the crash was occurring in an internal
> Mac OS X function related to font cache management) so I think
> we can conclude that you had a corrupt font or corrupt font
> cache. 

Now, as I review my (11:23 AM 07-04-2008) note at 
http://bugzilla.neooffice.org/bug.php?op=show&bugid=3144 
I wonder whether there was truly corruption, or whether there was 
simply some _discrepancy_ between 

 a) fonts _actually cached on disk_

and 

 b) applications' notions of what _might_ or_should_ be available from such 
caches

-- bear in mind that a few days prior to the crashing behaviours, I had used 
Apple Font Book to weed supposedly 
duplicate fonts.

(If my thoughts/expressions here are becoming fuzzy, sorry -- I'm not a 
developer!)

Now, re-focusing on OOo: 

 1. does OOo keep its own cache of fonts? 

If so, then:

 2. upon which sources are the OOo cache based? 

 3. is there maybe some discrepancy between what OOo _expects_ to find in 
cache(s), and what's _actually_ cached?

In my experience, issues relating to fonts can manifest themselves in very 
unexpected ways...

Regards
Graham

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