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------- Additional comments from t...@openoffice.org Thu Jun 4 14:26:43 +0000 2009 ------- With my most obvious grudge set aside, let's move on to the details: > The ruler is about changing the paragraph indent, not the bullet, as it is in > writer, as it is in calc. > Yes. You keep saying that. And I say that it a) does not make sense in Impress b) is totally different to pre-3.0 times, and to PPT > Powerpoint has no such feature as bullets, it emulates bullets by using the > paragraph indention (and some other tricks). Impress since 3.0 uses bullets as > specified by ODF and does not use any hacks. > Again: in which way does that imply ruler behaviour? A UI controller can change whatever internal representation it likes, the decision about what *exactly* is one about usability, no? > So user who use first line indents in impress are "out of their minds"? > Sorry, I don't discuss on this level. Read some books about text formatting > and try to understand why the ODF bullet feature is superior to that of > PowerPoint. > Sorry for being very direct in my previous statement - I think I have a fair understanding of text formatting concepts (but feel free to suggest additional reading). Still, what does the superiority of the odf bullet implementation have to do with what a specific UI controller manipulates? And going back to my offensive statement - you are seriously saying users will more often have to modify first line indentation, than bullet distance? That would imply most paragraphs in Impress break up into 3 or more lines, because with 2 lines having first line indent differ from left indent looks like shit (yes, I mean it). Even with 3+ lines, nobody with any sense of aesthetics would use first line indent in a bulleted paragraph - it's simply overdoing, the bullet itself is visual clue enough for a new paragraph. Concluding, I definitely challenge your opinion that the new ruler behaviour (ruler behaviour, not the change to the bullet/indent implementation) is an improvement in *any* way. > And about that patch, just imagine you select more than one paragraph and > those paragraphs have different bullets and different levels... > Christian, did you actually try this? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@graphics.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@graphics.openoffice.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org
