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User cl changed the following: What |Old value |New value ================================================================================ Status|REOPENED |STARTED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Issue type|PATCH |DEFECT -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Summary|Fix for the post-3.0 ruler|Ruler behaviour different | behaviour |then in 2.x version -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Target milestone|--- |OOo 3.x -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Additional comments from c...@openoffice.org Mon Jun 22 09:13:00 +0000 2009 ------- I discussed the writer numbering behaviour with OD today. Turns out they mimic the word behavior and they use new ODF attributes to store the different behavior. This adds further confusion to this issue. To summarize: ODF defined the paragraph indention and the indention from numbering additive, so the final indention of a paragraph would be the sum of is paragraph indention and an optional indention from a numbering indention. In impress this was used wrongly (both paragraph and numbering indention would always have the same value and only one of the values where used) in OOo 2.x version. I fixed this for OOo 3.0 so now the file format is correctly used and changes in paragraph indention does not cause a hard change of the numbering item any longer. In the meantime, the writer added a new numbering behavior in OOo 3.0 to mimic the word numbering and adding new ODF attributes (this means in OOo 3.0 impress uses the writer OOo 2.x format and OOo 3.0 writer uses new new format). With the new behavior the indention from a numbering is ignored as soon as a paragraph indention is set. From my point of view a very useless behavior as you can no longer indent a text that contains a numbering, as all numbering levels will be flat on the paragraph indention. The current user interface implementation of the new behavior in writer is still work in progress and contains some issues and inconsistency. I have asked OD to notify/include me on further work in this area so we can work out the inconsistency of impress and writer in the future. Now for the changed behavior of the ruler in impress, even looking at the new writer implementation it would still be a mistake to hard format the numbering when changing the ruler. The only viable solution I see is to add paragraph and numbering indention to visualize the indention knobs in the ruler and if the user changes them, the numbering intentions will be subtracted and only the paragraph indention will be changed. This would result in the same visual behavior as in OOo 2.x while still not making the past mistake to put a hard formatted bullet item in each and every paragraph that has an indention. Changing target to 3.x and accepting issue --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: issues-unsubscr...@graphics.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: issues-h...@graphics.openoffice.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: allbugs-unsubscr...@openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: allbugs-h...@openoffice.org