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------- Additional comments from alfay...@openoffice.org Fri Sep 25 08:42:17 
+0000 2009 -------
Hello mru.

Thanks a lot for your response. I send an attachment, an odt document with
several font examples, including Bitstream Vera Mono and DejaVu Sans Mono.

The point is that you mustn't have Bitstream Vera family installed in your
system, so I guess you'll need two different systems with different Oo versions.
I'm sorry I didn't explain myself clear enough. I'll try to be more exhaustive:

I tried with several other fonts (monospaced and non-monospaced, including
Courier New) and the only ones that are problematic are DejaVu Sans Mono and
Bitstream Vera Sans Mono. But I don't think the problem it's in the fonts, the
results of the tests make me think that it's a mix of font sustitution and the
"Print Layout" vs. "Web Layout" issue.

DejaVu and Bitstream Vera are free font families common in Linux, but not in
Windows. As far as I know, Oo 2.x installed Bitstream Vera on the system, but
now Oo 3.x installs DejaVu. I noticed that when the specific font is installed
in the system, thereĀ“s no problem with it, so in this case, no matter what Oo
version you're using, the text is displayed OK in Linux. The same goes for
Bitstream on Oo 2 and DejaVu on Oo 3 in Windows. But when you use DejaVu Sans
Mono in Oo 3 and then you open the document in Oo 2, the problem arises. And
also when you use Bitstream Vera Mono in Oo 2 and you open the document in Oo 3.
So I guess that when Oo tries to substitute a font, and this font is
monoespaced, something happens and it's displayed with the wrong kerning,
overlapping the characters.

The weird thing is that this only happens in Print Layout mode. Also, when you
open the document the first time, it's displayed OK, the next time you open the
document is when it's bad displayed; that makes me think that it's some kind of
obscure program failure in the Print Layout mode...

I don't think the problem relays in a certain font, but in the way Oo treats it
and displays it:

a) The first time you open the doc, it's displayed OK. If there was a problem
within the font, it should be bad displayed always.

b) In fact, there's no font!. As I explained before, the font is not installed
in the system where the error happens. To be more precise, the problem is not
with the font, but with the sustitution of the font. That is: for example, the
system does not have the Bitstream Vera font family, the text written in
Bitstream Vera Sans is displayed OK (so, the font is supposed to has been well
replaced), but the text written in Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is "crunched".

Anyway, I think the relevance of this problem lies in this point: it undermines
one of the strongs of Oo, the possibility of working with a standard format, no
matter the system and (up to some point, at least) the version of the
application. To get this accomplished, you need some system-independent fonts,
that technically and legally could be distributed and installed with Oo;
Bitstream (and now DejaVu) are the font families chosen and so, they should be
fully reliable and functional. Of course, you can't blame Oo for an error of the
font itself but I think this is not the case here.

Thanks for your attention. Hope it helps

Carlos

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