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User cloph changed the following: What |Old value |New value ================================================================================ Status|UNCONFIRMED |RESOLVED -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Keywords| |oooqa -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Resolution| |WORKSFORME -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Target milestone|OOo Later |OOo PleaseHelp -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Additional comments from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun May 29 12:36:43 -0700 2005 ------- > 1) This problem is probably of more importance outside the U.S., which > theoretically could hurt the uptake of OOo elsewhere. [...] I don't think you're right in this point. Esp. people dealing with accented characters on a daily basis will not appreciate a system where every application has to be configured individually, with different functionality and with different keys available. I don't understand why so many people think that it should be the job of an application to configure the keyboard. > 2) Lots of people have trouble inputting special characters not shown on their > keyboards, but this is thought to be a "difficulty of computing". The best > fix is to copy a character from an online document out of your web browser > perhaps. No the best way is to use a natural way of getting the character. One example is a compose sequence, a standard in unix/X world. e.g. the letter ø: you can clearly tell that it is a combination of "o" and "/", so just press <compose>, o, / and you'll get the character. Similar (but far mor common): é - a combination of "e" and the accent "´". Non-US-keyboard layouts will most likely have dead-keys activated, that is you press the accent-key (nothing will happen at this point of time) and then the e -> now the é is inserted. Yet another and very easy to use method is a modifyer key, "altGr", e.g. to enter "æ" you can press <modifier>+a. Or just press <modifier>+y and you'll get the yen-mark. Furthermore there are many applets that can be configured to show a selection of special characters that can be pasted into the document. This works in every application and doesn't need to be reconfigured everytime and for each application. Configure once and use everywhere. Considering your "real world" example in the first post: If you don't manage to use one of the various methods listed above for insertion of characters, why do you believe that yet another implementation inside OOo could be any better? > [Font-problems] What you describe is a totally different problem and cannot be solved by insertion-addons. If you don't have a font installed that includes the glyphs used in the document, there's nothing OOo can do about that. And you cannot force other not to use "seldomly found" characters. According to sba's comment (won't be done by Sun-engineers in foreseeable future), I resolve this issue "worksforme" and set the OOoPlesaehelp-target so that volunteers can search for it more easily. My POV is: This is a thing that has to be done for the whole desktop, for all applications and not by OOo. There are already many methods for inputting text available (small helper-programs or standard input features) that accomplish this task. An implementation within OOo will never be good enough for everybody (the complaints will never stop) and IMHO not worth the effort. You basically are asking for an easier way to configure your system's keyboard-layout/input-methods. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Please do not reply to this automatically generated notification from Issue Tracker. Please log onto the website and enter your comments. http://qa.openoffice.org/issue_handling/project_issues.html#notification --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]