Just BTW when I get the dread message I type "L" "enter" to reopen whatever folder I was reading. That's just TWO key strokes and not FOUR.
On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Milt Epstein via Alpine-info wrote: :>For more information on these timeouts (like what exactly they affect :>and what it means if there're no values set), you'll have to hear from :>others, perhaps Eduardo. I'll just add that my .pinerc has comments :>before these settings that give some explanation of what they control :>and what the default values are (which are sometimes 0, which may mean :>the timeout is off). Also, in the config, I think you can hit "?" for :>help when looking at a setting to get more info about it. :> :>I thought it might be the check incoming mail timeout value, which was :>somewhat highlighted in that previous thread -- but someone responded :>in this thread that they were having the same problem as you and had :>already tried changing that value. :> :>Some other suggestions: :> :>You can try changine one or two of these timeouts, to see whether that :>makes a difference in the behavior. :> :>Maybe you can run alpine with a higher debug level, and then when it :>disconnects, you may have more information there that can guide you to :>a soluation. :> :>Milt Epstein :>[email protected] :> :> :>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad wrote: :> :>> :>> Thank you Milt, those links were very informative! :>> :>> Then I checked all the timeout values in my config: :>> :>> I have Check incoming mail interval at 15 seconds, and :>> vaguely remember there was a reason for that many years :>> ago. :>> :>> I have at least 4 TCP-related timeouts, but they are all :>> set at "No Value". I suspect I should do something about :>> that. What does "No Value" mean for those? :>> :>> Then there is this one, which I have no idea what means: :>> :>> User Input Timeout = <No Value Set: using "0"> :>> :>> There are a few others (like "Rsh timeout") which sound :>> less relevant. :>> :>> So there seem to be quite a few more timeouts in Alpine now than :>> in 2016. :>> :>> (By "logging into Alpine" I meant the OAuth thing which requires :>> me to enter a password that it has stored.) :>> :>> I'll try the < up one level thing the next time the disconnect :>> occurs. :>> :>> But please advise about the 4 TCP settings above. :>> :>> Thomas Gramstad :>> :>> :>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Milt Epstein via Alpine-info wrote: :>> :>> > I didn't think I had anything to say about this because I haven't :>> > experienced this error, but then I found a reference to this error :>> > message in my saved mail, in an old thread on this mailing list (from :>> > January 28, 2016). :>> > :>> > So I went to the mailing list info url in each list message: :>> > :>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info__;!!DZ3fjg!5fUGYHXfaXJLpzIkhH62fsjzbXcAMwd4o4D6KyWsm0EE-ac6NuokM9kRsDz6MYylDPg1fnxhVyjWQAvCSiA$ :>> > :>> > and went to the list archives. But the list archives there only goes :>> > back about three years. But I did find a list archive at marc.info: :>> > :>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&w=2__;!!DZ3fjg!5fUGYHXfaXJLpzIkhH62fsjzbXcAMwd4o4D6KyWsm0EE-ac6NuokM9kRsDz6MYylDPg1fnxhVyjWLZeUaRE$ :>> > :>> > And then from January 2016: :>> > :>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&b=201601&w=2__;!!DZ3fjg!5fUGYHXfaXJLpzIkhH62fsjzbXcAMwd4o4D6KyWsm0EE-ac6NuokM9kRsDz6MYylDPg1fnxhVyjWfLSzz-w$ :>> > :>> > And then the thread in question ([Alpine-info] Best timeout settings :>> > for connecting to Exchange server?): :>> > :>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://marc.info/?t=145399947700006&r=1&w=2__;!!DZ3fjg!5fUGYHXfaXJLpzIkhH62fsjzbXcAMwd4o4D6KyWsm0EE-ac6NuokM9kRsDz6MYylDPg1fnxhVyjW6gYrRDQ$ :>> > :>> > You might take a look at that to see if there's anything helpful :>> > there. :>> > :>> > Also, people's suggestion to back out of the folder (using "<") and :>> > re-enter it (rather than quitting Alpine) seems worth a try. :>> > :>> > BTW, what do you mean by "log in to Alpine"? (Because one doesn't :>> > really have to log in to alpine. Probably you're having alpine :>> > connect to some mail server -- which may be relevant to getting that :>> > error message; but it does seem that others replying to your message :>> > have figured that out.) :>> > :>> > Milt Epstein :>> > [email protected] :>> > :>> > :>> > On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote: :>> > :>> > > The Subject: line is an error message that I get very often :>> > > in Alpine, like several times per hour: :>> > > :>> > > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] :>> > > :>> > > When this happens, in the folder I am in I can still see the :>> > > numbered list of messages, but if I try to open a message to read :>> > > it, there is nothing to read. I then have to quit Alpine, start :>> > > Alpine a new, and log in to Alpine, and then I can read the :>> > > messages. :>> > > :>> > > This frequent need to quit and restart is annoying. Is there :>> > > something I can do to prevent, or at least reduce the number of :>> > > such incidents? 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