On Sun, 2006-01-01 at 18:01 +0100, Nigel Henry wrote:
> On Sunday 01 January 2006 13:12, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote:
> > On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:45:09 +0100
> >
> > Nigel Henry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Saturday 31 December 2005 16:30, Lorenz Hopfmüller wrote:
> > > > Hello folks,
> > > > I wonder if I can play/use MIDI with Vivanco 6C PCI without using
> > > > timidity. In the description they write about a
> > > > onboard-DSL-wavetable-synthesizer. Arent these wavetables for playing
> > > > Midi without a software synth?
> > > >
> > > > # aplaymidi -l
> > > >  Port    Client name                      Port name
> > > >  64:0    MPU-401 MIDI 0-0                 MPU-401 MIDI 0-0
> > > >  65:0    OPL3 FM synth                    OPL3 FM Port
> > > >  72:0    Keycontr                         Keycontr MIDI 1
> > > >  80:0    Virtual Raw MIDI 2-0             VirMIDI 2-0
> > > >  81:0    Virtual Raw MIDI 2-1             VirMIDI 2-1
> > > >  82:0    Virtual Raw MIDI 2-2             VirMIDI 2-2
> > > >  83:0    Virtual Raw MIDI 2-3             VirMIDI 2-3
> > > >
> > > > I can play on all ports, but I don't get a sound anywhere...
> > > > So I got my new MIDI-Keyboard(72:0), but I can't use it without 1/2 sec
> > > > delay because of timidity...
> > > >
> > > > Would be nice if somebody could help me...
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Lorenz Hopfmüller
> > > >
> > > > My modules loaded:
> > > > # lsmod
> > > > Module                  Size  Used by
> > > > snd_virmidi             3392  0
> > > > snd_seq_virmidi         5888  1 snd_virmidi
> > > > vmnet                  34212  13
> > > > vmmon                 105324  0
> > > > snd_seq_midi            6688  0
> > > > snd_seq_midi_event      6016  2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi
> > > > snd_opl3_synth         11012  0
> > > > snd_seq_instr           7680  1 snd_opl3_synth
> > > > snd_seq_midi_emul       6784  1 snd_opl3_synth
> > > > snd_ainstr_fm           2176  1 snd_opl3_synth
> > > > snd_seq                47888  6
> > > > snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event,
> > > > snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq_instr,snd_seq_midi_emul
> > > > snd_usb_audio          72640  0
> > > > snd_usb_lib            14208  1 snd_usb_audio
> > > > snd_cmipci             29056  0
> > > > snd_pcm                78728  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_cmipci
> > > > snd_page_alloc          8200  1 snd_pcm
> > > > snd_opl3_lib            8960  2 snd_opl3_synth,snd_cmipci
> > > > snd_timer              20996  3 snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
> > > > snd_hwdep               6688  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_opl3_lib
> > > > snd_mpu401_uart         6016  1 snd_cmipci
> > > > snd_rawmidi            18944  4
> > > > snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi,snd_usb_lib,snd_mpu 401_uart
> > > > snd_seq_device          7180  5
> > > > snd_seq_midi,snd_opl3_synth,snd_seq,snd_opl3_lib ,snd_rawmidi
> > > > snd                    43576  14
> > > > snd_virmidi,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_instr,snd_s
> > > > eq,snd_usb_audio,snd_usb_lib,snd_cmipci,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,
> > > >snd_ hwdep ,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device
> > > > rt2500                170468  1
> > > >
> > > > with alsa-driver 1.0.10-r1
> > >
> > > Hi Lorenz. It sounds like your card is like my Audigy2 soundblaster then.
> > > You will need to load a soundfont onto the card. If you have the cdrom
> > > for the card, the soundfont (.sf2) should be somewhere on it, and you'll
> > > need to copy it to your home directory. If you havn't got the cdrom, you
> > > can get GM (General Midi) soundfonts from, http://www.hammersound.net .
> > > To load the soundfont you will need the package "awesfx" which may or may
> > > not already be installed. Then on the CLI, run, "sfxload
> > > <path_to_soundfont_filename>" without the double quotes. If you cannot
> > > load soundfonts onto the card, you could always use Qsynth, which is the
> > > front end to fluidsynth, and load a soundfont into that.
> > > Incidentally. Which distro, and desktop are you using? If you're using
> > > KDE, I have a small script you can use to autoload the soundfont onto the
> > > card.
> > >
> > > Let us know how you get on. Nigel.
> > >
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> > Hi,
> > # sfxload Papelmedia_Trombone.sf2
> > No AWE synth device is found
> > # asfxload Papelmedia_Trombone.sf2
> > No Emux synth hwdep device is found
> > # lsmod
> > Module                  Size  Used by
> > snd_rtctimer            2448  0
> > snd_seq_midi            6688  0
> > snd_pcm_oss            47520  0
> > snd_mixer_oss          16128  1 snd_pcm_oss
> > snd_seq_oss            30592  0
> > snd_seq_midi_event      6016  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss
> > snd_seq                47248  5 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
> > snd_usb_audio          71744  0
> > snd_usb_lib            13952  1 snd_usb_audio
> > snd_cmipci             28800  0
> > snd_pcm                79880  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_usb_audio,snd_cmipci
> > snd_page_alloc          8200  1 snd_pcm
> > snd_opl3_lib            8704  1 snd_cmipci
> > snd_timer              21124  4 snd_rtctimer,snd_seq,snd_pcm,snd_opl3_lib
> > snd_hwdep               7072  2 snd_usb_audio,snd_opl3_lib
> > snd_mpu401_uart         5888  1 snd_cmipci
> > snd_rawmidi            20256  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_usb_lib,snd_mpu401_uart
> > snd_seq_device          6924  5
> > snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_opl3_lib,snd_rawmidi snd              
> >      46692  13
> > snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_usb_audio,snd_cmipci,snd_
> >pcm,snd_opl3_lib,snd_timer,snd_hwdep,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_dev
> >ice rt2500                170468  1
> >
> > it doesnt work :(
> > I tried qsynth, it's less delay than with timidity, but too much... (around
> > 1/6 second) What's a onboard DSL-based Wavetable-synthesizer?
> > This is the description of the card:
> > This superb sound card is based on C-Media Chip set CMI 8738 and offers
> > oustanding sound quality, microphone connection and Game/Midi interface.
> >
> > A supplied software CD contains: drivers, mediarack player and multi
> > channel demos.
> >
> >     * Best 3D Sound Experience by HRTF based audio extension and 6 Channel
> > 16bit DAC * 16-bit full-duplex CODEC supporting
> > internet-telephone-systems"Voice over IP" * Supporting:
> >           0 Microsoft® DirectSound 3D™
> >           0 Aureate® A3D™ interface
> >           0 Creative® EAX interface
> >           0 C3DX Positional Audio for 4Channel mode plus center/subwoofer
> > at 6Channel mode. * Compatible to Legacy Audio SB16
> >     * DSL-based "Wavetable music systhesizer" supporting DirectMusic
> >     * Includes Audio Rack Software and Multi-Channel-Demos
> >     * Connectors for 6 Speaker, Microphone, Line IN, 2xGame and Midi
> >     * Driver support for: DOS, Windows 95, 98(SE), ME, NT, 2000, XP and
> > Linux Linux drivers are only support kernel 2.4
> > Thanks for you help,
> > Lorenz
> 
> Hi Lorenz. Can you verify if you are actually getting any sound out of the 
> card, as early on in your first post, you say "I can play on all ports, but 
> no sounds". Also which distro are you using? As this affects some commands, 
> and places where changes might need to be made.
> 
> Will you post the output of: cat /proc/asound/cards , and, 
> cat /proc/asound/version
> 
> I am a little concerned about the driver, which seems to be "snd_cmipci" , as 
> I don't find any reference to it in "/usr/share/alsa/cards" although there is 
> CMI8738-MC6  and  CMI8738-MC8.
> 
> Putting that aside for the moment. Open Alsamixer as user on the CLI and 
> check 
> the sliders for playback, and any relevant switches that might be muted. Use 
> "m" to toggle the switch, and help for Alsamixer is "F1".
> 
> If "snd-cmipci" is correct for the driver, the command to load the synth is, 
> modprobe snd_cmipci_synth. If it loads you should get no complaints. Then try 
> sfxload again.
> 
> This is the page for some info on CMI8738
>  http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/index.php?vendor=vendor-C-Media#matrix
> 
> I'm still trying to find out about the DSL-based Wavetable Synth, perhaps 
> someone else on the list could clue us both in.
> 
> If this is a driver problem, and you arn't getting any sounds from the card, 
> I'm probably getting out of my depth as this is an unfamiliar card to me, but 
> am confident about the soundfont stuff.

sfxload and asfxload only work with EMU cards as you can see.

The wavetable synth on your card is not supported by ALSA.  You will
have to use a soft synth like Timidity.

Lee



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