I am still unable to load snd_bt87x properly. I have removed all things OSS from the kernel but it still insist on loading module bt878 unless added to hotplug blacklist. What?, Why?

Having finally killed btsound/bt878 (I hope) I load snd_bt87x as such.

# modprobe -v snd_bt87x load_all=1
insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15/kernel/sound/pci/snd-bt87x.ko load_all=1 index=-2

It seems to work but I can find no mention of it when I run dmesg. It appears in lsmod but it is not used by any other modules unlike bt878 which was used by bttv. And as always snd_bt87x does not apear in cat /proc/asound/cards.

I have included dmesg, lsmod and cat /proc/asound/cards output as reference if it is any help.

# dmesg
 @ 0x1fff7740
ACPI: DSDT (v001 NVIDIA AWRDACPI 0x00001000 MSFT 0x0100000c) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x1008
ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee00000
ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x00] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
Processor #0 6:10 APIC version 16
ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0x00] dfl dfl lint[0x1])
ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x02] address[0xfec00000] gsi_base[0])
IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 2, version 17, address 0xfec00000, GSI 0-23
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
ACPI: BIOS IRQ0 pin2 override ignored.
ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level)
ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
Enabling APIC mode:  Flat.  Using 1 I/O APICs
Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
Allocating PCI resources starting at 30000000 (gap: 20000000:dec00000)
Built 1 zonelists
Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda2 ro
mapped APIC to ffffd000 (fee00000)
mapped IOAPIC to ffffc000 (fec00000)
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 32768 bytes)
Detected 1837.618 MHz processor.
Using pmtmr for high-res timesource
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 131072 (order: 7, 524288 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Memory: 514412k/524224k available (2240k kernel code, 9216k reserved, 650k data, 228k init, 0k highmem)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 3679.19 BogoMIPS (lpj=7358390)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: After vendor identify, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: L1 I Cache: 64K (64 bytes/line), D cache 64K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: L2 Cache: 512K (64 bytes/line)
CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383fbff c1c3fbff 00000000 00000020 00000000 00000000 00000000
mtrr: v2.0 (20020519)
CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ stepping 00
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
ENABLING IO-APIC IRQs
..TIMER: vector=0x31 apic1=0 pin1=0 apic2=-1 pin2=-1
checking if image is initramfs... it is
Freeing initrd memory: 957k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
EISA bus registered
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfafc0, last bus=2
PCI: Using configuration type 1
ACPI: Subsystem revision 20050902
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using IOAPIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI: nForce2 C1 Halt Disconnect fixup
Boot video device is 0000:02:00.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.HUB0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGPB._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK1] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK2] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK3] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK4] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNK5] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBA] (IRQs 3 4 *5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUBB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMAC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LAPU] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LACI] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LMCI] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LSMB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LUB2] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LFIR] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [L3CM] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LIDE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] (IRQs *16), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC2] (IRQs *17), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] (IRQs *18), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC4] (IRQs *19), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC5] (IRQs *16), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCG] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCH] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCI] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCK] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCS] (IRQs *23), disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCM] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [AP3C] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCZ] (IRQs 20 21 22) *0, disabled.
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI init
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 15 devices
PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq".  If it helps, post a report
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x1000-0x107f could not be reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x1080-0x10ff has been reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x1400-0x147f has been reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x1480-0x14ff could not be reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x1800-0x187f has been reserved
pnp: 00:00: ioport range 0x1880-0x18ff has been reserved
pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x1c00-0x1c3f has been reserved
pnp: 00:01: ioport range 0x2000-0x203f has been reserved
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:08.0
  IO window: a000-cfff
  MEM window: d7000000-d9ffffff
  PREFETCH window: d4000000-d4ffffff
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0
  IO window: disabled.
  MEM window: d5000000-d6ffffff
  PREFETCH window: c0000000-cfffffff
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:08.0 to 64
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
SGI XFS with ACLs, security attributes, realtime, large block numbers, no debug enabled
SGI XFS Quota Management subsystem
Initializing Cryptographic API
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered
io scheduler cfq registered
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f13:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing enabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:0a: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 8192K size 1024 blocksize
r8169 Gigabit Ethernet driver 2.2LK loaded
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC1] enabled at IRQ 16
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0b.0[A] -> Link [APC1] -> GSI 16 (level, high) -> IRQ 177
eth0: Identified chip type is 'RTL8169s/8110s'.
eth0: RTL8169 at 0xe0802000, 00:0d:61:40:ce:ea, IRQ 177
Linux video capture interface: v1.00
EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0
Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 1
Cannot allocate resource for EISA slot 2
EISA: Detected 0 cards.
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.10rc3 (Mon Nov 07 13:30:21 2005 UTC).
ALSA device list:
  No soundcards found.
NET: Registered protocol family 2
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
IP route cache hash table entries: 8192 (order: 3, 32768 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 32768 bind 32768)
TCP reno registered
TCP bic registered
NET: Registered protocol family 8
NET: Registered protocol family 20
Using IPI Shortcut mode
ACPI wakeup devices:
HUB0 HUB1 USB0 USB1 USB2 F139 MMAC MMCI UAR1
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
Freeing unused kernel memory: 228k freed
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
NFORCE2: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:09.0
NFORCE2: chipset revision 162
NFORCE2: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
NFORCE2: 0000:00:09.0 (rev a2) UDMA133 controller
    ide0: BM-DMA at 0xf000-0xf007, BIOS settings: hda:DMA, hdb:DMA
    ide1: BM-DMA at 0xf008-0xf00f, BIOS settings: hdc:DMA, hdd:DMA
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: Maxtor 91080D5, ATA DISK drive
hdb: ST3120026A, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: _NEC NR-7500A, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
hdd: COMPAQ DVD-ROM SD-M1002, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 21095424 sectors (10800 MB) w/512KiB Cache, CHS=20928/16/63, UDMA(33)
hda: cache flushes not supported
 hda: hda1 hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: max request size: 1024KiB
hdb: 234441648 sectors (120034 MB) w/8192KiB Cache, CHS=16383/255/63, UDMA(33)
hdb: cache flushes supported
 hdb: hdb1
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
NET: Registered protocol family 1
Adding 1696456k swap on /dev/hda4.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:1696456k
EXT3 FS on hda2, internal journal
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12
Generic RTC Driver v1.07
hdc: ATAPI 32X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, DMA
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
hdd: ATAPI 8X DVD-ROM drive, 256kB Cache, DMA
input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input1
ts: Compaq touchscreen protocol output
kjournald starting.  Commit interval 5 seconds
EXT3 FS on hda1, internal journal
EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
usbcore: registered new driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new driver hub
ohci_hcd: 2005 April 22 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCF] enabled at IRQ 22
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.0[A] -> Link [APCF] -> GSI 22 (level, high) -> IRQ 185
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.0 to 64
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: OHCI Host Controller
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: irq 185, io mem 0xda002000
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 3 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCG] enabled at IRQ 21
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.1[B] -> Link [APCG] -> GSI 21 (level, high) -> IRQ 193
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00: 02.1 to 64
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: OHCI Host Controller
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: irq 193, io mem 0xda003000
usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 3 ports detected
usbcore: registered new driver hiddev
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCL] enabled at IRQ 20
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.2[C] -> Link [APCL] -> GSI 20 (level, high) -> IRQ 201
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:02.2 to 64
ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: EHCI Host Controller
ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: debug port 1
PCI: cache line size of 64 is not supported by device 0000:00:02.2
ehci_hcd 0000:00: 02.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: irq 201, io mem 0xda004000
ehci_hcd 0000:00:02.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 1.00, driver 10 Dec 2004
usb 1-2: USB disconnect, address 2
usbcore: registered new driver usbhid
drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 3-0:1.0: 6 ports detected
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.0: wakeup
usb 1-2: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
hiddev96: USB HID v1.00 Device [        UPS] on usb-0000:00:02.0-2
ohci_hcd 0000:00:02.1: wakeup
agpgart: Detected NVIDIA nForce2 chipset
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xd0000000
usb 2-1: new low speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 2
usb 2-3: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 3
SCSI subsystem initialized
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
usb-storage: device found at 3
usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
input: X10 Wireless Technology Inc USB Receiver as /class/input/input2
drivers/usb/input/ati_remote.c: Weird data, len=1 ff 00 00 00 00 00 ...
usbcore: registered new driver ati_remote
drivers/usb/input/ati_remote.c: Registered USB driver ATI/X10 RF USB Remote Control v. 2.2.1
i2c_adapter i2c-0: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x1c00
i2c_adapter i2c-1: nForce2 SMBus adapter at 0x2000
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APCJ] enabled at IRQ 22
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:06.0[A] -> Link [APCJ] -> GSI 22 (level, high) -> IRQ 185
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00: 06.0 to 64
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54754 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 47498
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC4] enabled at IRQ 19
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:07.0[A] -> Link [APC4] -> GSI 19 (level, high) -> IRQ 209
bttv: driver version 0.9.16 loaded
bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:08.0[A] -> Link [APC1] -> GSI 16 (level, high) -> IRQ 177
bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:01:08.0, irq: 177, latency: 32, mmio: 0xd4000000
bttv0: detected: ATI TV Wonder [card=63], PCI subsystem ID is 1002:0001
bttv0: using: ATI TV-Wonder [card=63,autodetected]
bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=00ffffff [init]
bttv0: using tuner=19
bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... found
msp3400 2-0040: chip=MSP3430G-B6 +nicam +simple +simpler +radio mode=simpler
msp3400 2-0040: msp34xxg daemon started
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9887 @ 0x86... not found
tuner 2-0060: All bytes are equal. It is not a TEA5767
tuner 2-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (bt878 #0 [sw])
tuner 2-0060: type set to 19 (Temic PAL* auto (4006 FN5))
bttv0: registered device video0
bttv0: registered device vbi0
bttv0: PLL: 28636363 => 35468950 .. ok
  Vendor: IC        Model: USB Storage-CFC   Rev: 301b
  Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 00
usb-storage: device scan complete
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.5 loaded
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] enabled at IRQ 18
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0a.0[A] -> Link [APC3] -> GSI 18 (level, high) -> IRQ 217
CORE cx88[0]: subsystem: 1002:00f8, board: ATI TV Wonder Pro [card=4,autodetected]
TV tuner 44 at 0x1fe, Radio tuner -1 at 0x1fe
tuner 3-0060: All bytes are equal. It is not a TEA5767
tuner 3-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (cx88[0])
tuner 3-0060: type set to 44 (Philips 4 in 1 (ATI TV Wonder Pro/Conexant))
cx88[0]/0: found at 0000:01:0a.0, rev: 5, irq: 217, latency: 32, mmio: 0xd7000000
tda9887 3-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (cx88[0])
cx88[0]/0: registered device video1 [v4l2]
cx88[0]/0: registered device vbi1
input: PC Speaker as /class/input/input3
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
r8169: eth0: link up
NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
IPv6 over IPv4 tunneling driver
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
#

# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_bt87x              14280  0
ipv6                  233344  10
analog                 10912  0
floppy                 56132  0
pcspkr                  2308  0
tda9887                14224  0
cx8800                 30220  0
cx88xx                 58656  1 cx8800
ir_common               9476  1 cx88xx
tuner                  36900  0
msp3400                28720  0
bttv                  152656  0
video_buf              20228  3 cx8800,cx88xx,bttv
firmware_class         10752  1 bttv
i2c_algo_bit            8584  2 cx88xx,bttv
btcx_risc               4744  3 cx8800,cx88xx,bttv
tveeprom               13968  2 cx88xx,bttv
snd_ymfpci             58816  0
gameport               15112  2 analog,snd_ymfpci
snd_opl3_lib           10368  1 snd_ymfpci
snd_hwdep               9248  1 snd_opl3_lib
snd_mpu401_uart         7424  1 snd_ymfpci
snd_rawmidi            24224  1 snd_mpu401_uart
shpchp                 40640  0
pci_hotplug            26932  1 shpchp
snd_intel8x0           30492  0
snd_ac97_codec         83104  2 snd_ymfpci,snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus            2304  1 snd_ac97_codec
i2c_nforce2             6528  0
i2c_core               20496  8 tda9887,cx88xx,tuner,msp3400,bttv,i2c_algo_bit,tveeprom,i2c_nforce2
ati_remote             11144  0
usb_storage            58688  0
scsi_mod               87396  1 usb_storage
nvidia_agp              7452  1
ehci_hcd               30600  0
usbhid                 33376  0
ohci_hcd               19204  0
usbcore               116228  6 ati_remote,usb_storage,ehci_hcd,usbhid,ohci_hcd
agpgart                32072  1 nvidia_agp
tsdev                   7360  0
psmouse                33028  0
ide_cd                 37380  0
cdrom                  34208  1 ide_cd
rtc                    13108  0
unix                   26544  10
ide_disk               16256  4
ide_generic             1408  0 [permanent]
amd74xx                13084  0 [permanent]
generic                 4484  0 [permanent]
ide_core              114208  6 usb_storage,ide_cd,ide_disk,ide_generic,amd74xx,generic
evdev                   9088  0
mousedev               11168  0
#

# cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [nForce2        ]: NFORCE - NVidia nForce2
                     NVidia nForce2 with ALC655 at 0xda000000, irq 185
1 [YMF724         ]: YMF724 - Yamaha DS-XG (YMF724)
                     Yamaha DS-XG (YMF724) at 0xd9000000, irq 209
#


On 1/17/06, Clemens Ladisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
brainball wrote:
> kernel: bt878: AUDIO driver version 0.0.0 loaded

This is not the ALSA driver (snd-bt87x) but the old OSS driver (btaudio).
Disable the latter in the kernel configuration.


HTH
Clemens


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