See as we're brainstorming, what does a build system need to do?

Identify files, and associate with actions (compile, embed as
resources, loose file resource)
Identify external dependencies (libraries, etc)
Identify enviroment variables (object file location, target folders,
OS/tool versions)
Build the thing
Do something after the build (could be anything really)

What is missing?

Erick


On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]> wrote:
> Haha ok. Thanks then Ian! :)
>
> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Ian Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Every dreamer needs a devil's advocate. I am trying to help.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Justin Bozonier <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You're right Ian, it's impossible. Oh man... We're stuck with the same
>>> tooling we have today until next century!
>>> Or wait... Maybe there can be multiple tools that can each handle
>>> different use cases...? Or or or... Dreaming here I know... Maybe some
>>> programmer will innovate in a readily accessible... Open way? And share the
>>> fruit of their labor for other like minded developers to chip in..
>>> Nah that would never work.
>>> Be an Optimist Prime... There's a time and a place to be a Negatron, but
>>> brainstorming isn't it.
>>> I think these criticisms would be VERY useful if I had something I felt
>>> was production ready and needed to find all of the holes in my project.
>>> Don't have that yet though. In the meantime, dream with us Ian!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:21 AM, Ian Davis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> How would a web-based ide handle:
>>> Registry
>>> IsolatedStorage (or any storage)
>>> rendering non-web based UIs
>>> For the example I left earlier, it is also a risk running random code on
>>> your server. Simple applications can tank a machine/server, but it only runs
>>> web applications.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Tim Erickson <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually I think a Web IDE is a (potentially) cool solution, but to a
>>>> slightly different problem.  It solves the problem of accessibility of the
>>>> toolset (i.e. ubiquitous availability and zero setup time - aka
>>>> SO-machine-compatible), but leaves out any resolution to the dependency on
>>>> the toolset in the first place.
>>>> This is probably more appealing to me, as I'm not anxious to give up my
>>>> tooling.  However, I do still like the thought of exploring something more
>>>> slimmed down tooling-wise, and am continuing to like the idea of the
>>>> convention route.  But there's also a thought I had of: Why can't the
>>>> project file (configuration) be in the same file as the code?  How about
>>>> IntelliSense that helps one through that?
>>>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Justin Bozonier
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It's ok to come out of
>>>>> this with no solutions and a head full of dreams.
>>>>
>>>> Actually, sometimes I wonder if Justin prefers it that way ;-)
>>>>
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