Your statements are true from a bandwidth perspective, but that misses the point. From a total number of users perspective, I think that wikipedia has more users. My grandmother doesn't use bit torrent. As more mainstream apps (including you tube) -- regardless of total bandwith numbers today -- start to use p2p, the more you will need services like alto. It is a consequence of the shared access media.
On Sep 30, 2010 6:05 AM, "Victor Grishchenko" <[email protected]> wrote: > On 29 September 2010 21:16, David A. Bryan <[email protected]> wrote: >> Seems to me that the more that this kind of technology gets >> incorporated into more "mainstream" applications (yeah, I know, more >> people probably download video from BitTorrent than use Wikipedia, >> but...), the higher the likelihood we will start seeing last mile >> network issues, and the more motivation for things like ALTO and >> DECADE. > > Sorry, that is laughable. Wikipedia's video is nothing compared to > BitTorrent, YouTube, etc. Maybe, in some years it will catch up... > >> Does anyone know if any of the folks working on this (I know we have >> some P2P-Next folks, or at least folks who are in touch with them) are >> on the ALTO list? If this gets incorporated more widely into Wikipedia >> in the future, this may be a very nice open, public source of data on >> the problem, and possible test bed for the ALTO work as we move >> forward. > > I'm in touch with them. > I think, regarding the data you need, at this moment it is way more > practical to measure existing BitTorrent networks. There are lots of > publications and data on the subject, including those made by P2P-Next > people. > Video on Wikipedia is sorta starting to take off, but in most of the > cases, those are 5-10MB short animated illustrations. > Infrastructure-wise, that is negligible. > >> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:07 AM, Enrico Marocco >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> in case someone has not noticed it yet, Wikimedia has just announced the >>> adoption of a BitTorrent-based technology for distributing multimedia >>> content in their websites, including Wikipedia: >>> >>> http://techblog.wikimedia.org/2010/09/video-labs-p2p-next-community-cdn-for-video-distribution/ >>> >>> I thought this may be of some interest for people on this list, both for the >>> wide diffusion of the free content available on such websites, and as food >>> for thought regarding the CDN use-case that has recently received quite >>> attention around here. >>> >>> -- >>> Ciao, >>> Enrico >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> alto mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> alto mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto >> > > > > -- > Victor
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