Hi Vijay, Jan, Martin, Thanks a lot! Personally, I like the decision. It can be more efficient and then lead to better results.
As for the discussion leader, you can be a good, natural choice :-) Other potential candidates I see can include Sabine, Luis, Yunfei, and me, as these four people are already quite familiar with the existing documents, and also engaged in the many side meetings---there are multiple other younger candidates attending the many side meetings as well, but we may reduce their burden a bit. My proposal is that the chairs and the AD just approach one, and I have a strong belief that the others will just support---one very nice thing, which I like a lot about the alto WG, is that the members have strong collaborations and provide each other with very strong support. Hence, I see no problem with picking any of the five. These people come from different "segments": Sabine (Nokia, equipment), Luis (Telefonica, ISP), Yunfei (Tencent, app), Vijay (chair), and me (academia), and a single "leader" need the support of other segments anyway. Just my 2cents. Richard On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:26 PM Vijay Gurbani <vijay.gurb...@gmail.com> wrote: > All: As you may have noticed from the ALTO agenda, the last hour of our > meeting time is devoted to re-chartering discussion. > > At issue is how to best use that time? > > I laid out the two approaches on how to use this time in [1], and > subsequent to that, Jan, Martin, and I have had a quick chat on providing > some guidance to the principals so the hour can be used in the most optimal > manner. > > To summarize [1], here are the two ways: One, have individual speakers > talk about their specific pieces of work, and then have a recharter > discussion that tries to weave in all of the presentations. Or two, have > one presenter present a coherent rechartering discussion that includes > works from others, and then lead the larger discussion. The former > approach has been used in the past during BoFs, but may not be as > applicable to us here for reasons enunciated in [2]. > > This leaves the second option: have a discussion leader who will summarize > existing threads of work being sought in a recharter, and drive the > discussion forward. We think this is the best way to move forward on > rechartering discussion. > > Therefore, here is a concrete proposal: > > - Choose one person to lead the discussion. (Call him or her the > discussion leader. I note that a subset of you have started a Google doc > [3] that starts collecting potential recharter discussion items.) > > - The discussion leader leads the discussion, and everyone who wants to > contribute a presentation that will have impact on the rechartering > discussion should produce 1 slide (and 1 slide only, no title slide, just a > single slide that includes architecture, results, and discussions on their > specific work item for rechartering). The creators of this 1-slide send it > to the discussion leader [4]. > > - The creator of the slide may come up to the mic and speak to their slide > for 1 minute (and 1 minute only). This limit will be enforced by the > chairs (apologies in advance). > > - The remaining time after a series of 1 minute presentations will be left > for the broader discussion on rechartering. > > We hope that this provides some structure and guidance to the rechartering > discussions. Please let Jan and me know if you have any questions, and > please let us know who the discussion leader will be. > > [1] > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/alto/rmBGzkM6hPPXLs1r5ngplxe-7ak/ > [2] We eschew the BoF approach primarily driven by time constraints: > consider that I counted at least 11 drats that were identified possible > recharter discussion, and a separate request for a 20 minute slot. > Assuming we allocate 5 minutes to each draft, we are looking at 55 minutes > already! Not to mention the 20 minute slot. Therefore, allocating time > for presentations will not be possible if we want to devote most of the > time to discussing the recharter. > [3] > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qP9jf-CMXvNiEE3YAnApTczAE4QkBW23Q1Eg99uOaEQ/edit > [4] While I do not relish being the creator of these 1 minute slides, I > have found them to be very effective at focusing on the main message itself > instead of meandering around. Consider these the equivalent of an > "elevator pitch". > > Thanks, > > - vijay > _______________________________________________ > alto mailing list > alto@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/alto > -- -- ===================================== | Y. Richard Yang <y...@cs.yale.edu> | | Professor of Computer Science | | http://www.cs.yale.edu/~yry/ | =====================================
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