What I've been doing with AltoDroid is scrolling around at different zoom 
levels at my area of interest (launchsites) to store as much as I can get.  
When offline you go to the upper right menu pull-down and hit off line maps.  
You'll get the map/photo, with the google watermarks across the screen.  The 
zoom levels are not as extensive as when connected on line but good enough for 
tracking.Some may gripe about the watermarks but again I don't find them 
intrusive enough to be a problem.  Nice to be able to see if you have to cross 
drainage ditches or creeks in advanced as sometimesit's not always best to go 
in a straight line to the last known packet position of your rocket.
This is the only tracking app I know of that allows one to select and cache 
maps for off line use.  All the Ham Radio tracking programs one has to install 
the mapsets before expecting to be able to use them off grid.  Correct me if I 
am missing one here.
Mapsphere allows downloading and caching but it doesn't navigate ie. only can 
put one datastream on the map at one time.  In other words you can see where 
your rocket is but not where you are in relation to it on the map.   Plus it is 
no longer supported or being maintained.
APRSIS32 will allow one to hold tiles in the disk for off line usage later but 
one has to triapse around with a laptop or input the data into a handheld GPS.  
If should be more usable with the smallWindows tablet devices coming out now.
GPSGATE costs an arm and a leg to use so I haven't bothered to look at it.
UIView again has no commercial mapset available anymore so it's a PITA to do 
DIY maps.  Could do google photo map overlays with a commercial piece of 
software but it was a royal PITA to do.The absolutely cool thing with UIVIEW is 
one could use it as a base receiving station and actually record a flight in 
real time and could play it back in real time. No other app does that.
Xastir is a Linux app of which I know Linux is dear to Bdale, Keith and myself 
but is difficult for an uninitiated person to use.  It too has off line mapset 
issues of which I was able to download someworkable mapsets from several years 
ago.  It can be used for APRS tracking and with the use of a simple script, can 
be used to track EggFinders and Eggfinder TRS devices that simply transmitthe 
NMEA words to a receiving station.  The script translates the incoming NMEA 
words into a "pseudo" APRS packet that Xastir can plot on the screen.  Kinda 
funky to see the data coming in 1/sec as opposed to once every 5 seconds one 
gets with APRS.  Alternatively, one could just connect the EggFinder receiver 
to the GPS port on Xastir but in that case one would be in the same positionas 
Mapsphere.
YAAC has some potential for APRS as OSM maps can be stored for offline use. If 
one can get it installed in a small Windows tablet and access the internal GPS 
receiver so the device knows where it's at, along with pairing to a B/T TNC it 
could be a workable receiving station for APRS tracking.
The above options are why I like the Tele-GPS/Tele-BT and AltosDroid solution.
Kurt Savegnago KC9LDH
      From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 To: Keith Packard <[email protected]>; 'Altus Metrum' 
<[email protected]> 
 Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 1:45 PM
 Subject: Re: [altusmetrum] Tele BT Maps
   
I waited for a little bit longer and the menu filled up with all the choices.  
I then selected the Kloudbusters site and a progress bar appeared and completed 
the download. Now that I have downloaded the map is it cached on the phone or 
will I always need a internet connection?


---- Keith Packard <[email protected]> wrote: 
> Tim Navickas <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > I am using the TeleBT and trying to load maps but when I go to the menu
> > nothing appears under known launch sites.
> 
> It downloads the list of launch sites from our machine; you might wait a
> bit and see if it appears later.
> 
> > Does the TeleBT have the same
> > maps loaded by default like the Tele Dongle?  If so, how do I get access to
> > them?  I am trying to load a map for the Kloudbusters launch site for this
> > weekend.
> 
> AltosDroid doesn't care what you use to get telemetry; the maps are all
> the same.
> 
> If you get stuck, you can type in the lat/lon of the launch site and
> load from there; there's no difference in the result.
> 
> > Also,  how do you know if you are using online/offline maps?
> 
> Offline maps will be covered with little 'copyright google' text
> everywhere.
> 
> -- 
> -keith

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