Hi, I've got the client side of amanda compiled and installed on MacOS X, but it won't use dump. I think I've got gnutar going on it now, we'll see tonight. But I'd rather use dump, unless someone can tell me why using gnutar would be so much better. I haven't been able to get the server side to work, it can't find start_time, which makes no sense to me, but then I'm not really a programmer any more. It is defined in a library as a time_t structure. Since my Mac would just be a client, I don't really care all that much. Second, I back up an NT and a Win2000 machines with amanda, and I get tons of 'strange' (amanda's word) output from it. Is there a way to stop that? Is it samba or gnutar putting out the messages? The output is basically a directory listing. I've been toying with the idea of trying to compile the client on NT or 2000, from messing with it on MacOS, the readme's lead me to believe I could do it. Paul. -- Paul T. Root E/Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 600 Stinson Blvd, Fl 1S PAG: +1 (877) 693-7155 Minneapolis, MN 55413 WRK: +1 (612) 664-3385 NIC: PTR FAX: +1 (612) 664-4779