On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:40:17AM -0500, Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote:
> On 2017-11-13 11:11, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Monday 13 November 2017 10:12:47 Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote:
> > 
> > > On 2017-11-13 09:56, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Monday 13 November 2017 07:19:45 Austin S. Hemmelgarn wrote:
> > > > > On 2017-11-11 01:49, Jon LaBadie wrote:
> > > > > > Just a thought.  My amanda server has seven hard drives
> > > > > > dedicated to saving amanda data.  Only 2 are typically
> > > > > > used (holding and one vtape drive) during an amdump run.
> > > > > > Even then, the usage is only for about 3 hours.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > So there is a lot of electricity and disk drive wear for
> > > > > > inactive drives.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Can todays drives be unmounted and powered down then
> > > > > > when needed, powered up and mounted again?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I'm not talking about system hibernation, the system
> > > > > > and its other drives still need to be active.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Back when 300GB was a big drive I had 2 of them in
> > > > > > external USB housings.  They shut themselves down
> > > > > > on inactivity.  When later accessed, there would
> > > > > > be about 5-10 seconds delay while the drive spun
> > > > > > up and things proceeded normally.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That would be a fine arrangement now if it could
> > > > > > be mimiced.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Aside from what Stefan mentioned (using hdparam to set the standby
> > > > > timeout, check the man page for hdparam as the numbers are not
> > > > > exactly sensible), you may consider looking into auto-mounting each
> > > > > of the drives, as that can help eliminate things that would keep
> > > > > the drives on-line (or make it more obvious that something is still
> > > > > using them).
> > > > 
...
> > 
> > But if I allow the 2TB to be  unmounted and self-powered down, once
> > daily, what shortening of its life would I be subjected to?  In other
> > words, how many start-stop cycles can it survive?
> >
> It's hard to be certain.  For what it's worth though, you might want to test
> this to be certain that it's actually going to save you energy.  It takes a
> lot of power to get the platters up to speed, but it doesn't take much to
> keep them running at that speed.  It might be more advantageous to just
> configure the device to idle (that is, park the heads) after some time out
> and leave the platters spinning instead of spinning down completely (and it
> should result in less wear on the spindle motor).
> > 
In my situation, each of the six data drives is only
needed for a 2 week period out of each 12 weeks.  Once
shutdown, it could be down for 10 weeks.

Jon
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