Andrew, Overall, I agree with your comments about commercial offerings versus OpenSource. However, I take exception with the way in which you closed out your post...
"Outsourcing spam and virus scanning is a false economy." I wholeheartedly DISAGREE with that statement. As a service provider, I have built SPAM and virus scanning systems that are 'hosted' solutions. These machines are a truly 'outsourced' solution for my customers. And, my customers will disagree that this has been a false economy for them. There's a different between outsourcing and commercial products. If your argument is "Don't buy into commercial products as they are nowhere near as flexible as OpenSource products", then I am in agreement. At least with what's on the market today... --- "Andrew J. Meader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I may be coming into this discussion to late. Please take me with a > grain of salt, I'm vocal about this topic. > > We've used vendor products as adjunct machines for spam and virus > filtering. We thought the other products would bring value and give > us > some more time. That just didn't happen. We spent all the time we > were > supposed to save (and more) managing the vendor relationship. Trying > to > get features added to the product was a pain in the keester. Vendors > can > make some broad brushed assumptions about spam, I'm only interested > in > blocking authentic UCE; local practice should define UCE, not a > vendor. > We are now using postfix+amavisd-new+clamd...works awesome. We are a > small shop and only process 80k to 150k messages per day. Less than > 15k > messages each day are legit mail and we've had less than 10 user > complaints of false positives in 8 months...awesome, awesome, awesome > > results. > > My experiential talking points for not using an appliance for spam > and > virus scanning: > > + A vendor product can never give the quick reaction time that an > > open platform can bring. > + The larger and more popular the vendor the worse it gets. > + Leave the "standard" packages and higher pricing usually > offsets > any savings. > + Leave the "standard" configuration and it probably won't be as > reliable. > + The fine people on this list can provide more real world > experience that a corporate R/D department. > + If decision makers want to compare apples to apples then they > need > to go through the history of lists like this and make and understand > all > the cool/effective/creative solutions provided here. > + When a vendor discontinues a product you essentially lose the > value you purchased. If you use an open product you can recycle the > experience and knowledge. Hands on knowledge never depreciates. > > Granted, open source projects/applications have a steep learning > curve. > The best efficiencies are always realized with familiarity and more > knowledge, not less knowledge. Unfortunately, everybody wants > something > for nothing and sales people are trained to sell...I've been one, > don't > flame me. :) > > Take this for what its worth. I find that if I talk about open source > > implementation challenges people get nervous quick. As a geek, its > best > to keep the engineering/implementation challenges and associated > discussions in the right arena. The "big office" types only like to > hear > about solutions. > > Outsourcing spam and virus scanning is a false economy. Don't drink > the > cool aid. > > Andy > > Rocco Scappatura wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >During this days my company starts to investigate about the > possibility to > >adopt an appliance to replace amavisd-new... :( > > > >The main reason is the difficult to manage spam traffic with SA. I > have > >faith and I don't think that the appliance that we choice for test > purpouse > >(Netasq f100) wouldn't be better... > > > >Is there anyone who can explain me some good reason to continue to > use > >Amavisd-new in place of every other appliance that perform virus and > spam > >scanning? > > > >Many thanx, > > > >rocsca > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, > discussions, > and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl > _______________________________________________ > AMaViS-user mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user > AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 > AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/ > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions, and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl _______________________________________________ AMaViS-user mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/amavis-user AMaViS-FAQ:http://www.amavis.org/amavis-faq.php3 AMaViS-HowTos:http://www.amavis.org/howto/
