> > > I was thinking along the lines of:
> > > $forward_method = 'smtp:smtp.example.com:2525'
> > >
> > > and on both downstream servers add listeners on 2525:
> > >
> > > 2525 inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
> > >  -o mynetworks=10.0.0.13
> > >  -o smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
> > >
> >
> > and maybe these are needed:
> >  -o smtpd_use_tls=no
> >  -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=no
> >
>
>
> okay here is what I got when i added these;
>
> Apr 17 10:35:39 mx1 amavis[1610]: (01610-08) Remote host presents itself as:
> smtp3.example.com
> Apr 17 10:35:39 mx1 amavis[1610]: (01610-08) mail_via_smtp: session failed:
> sending MAIL FROM
> Apr 17 10:35:39 mx1 amavis[1610]: (01610-08) mail_via_smtp: 530 5.5.0
> Rejected by MTA: 530 Must issue a STARTTLS command first, id=01610-08
> Apr 17 10:35:39 mx1 postfix/smtp[1558]: 9BB1D2226BC7:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1], delay=1, status=bounced
> (host 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] said: 530 5.5.0 Rejected by MTA: 530 Must issue a
> STARTTLS command first, id=01610-08 (in reply to end of DATA command))
>
> here is the main.cf from smtp3
>
> #
> ==========================================================================
> # service type  private unpriv  chroot  wakeup  maxproc command + args
> #               (yes)   (yes)   (yes)   (never) (100)
> #
> ==========================================================================
> smtp      inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
> 2525      inet  n       -       n       -       -       smtpd
>         -o mynetworks=10.135.1.6
>         -o
> smtpd_client_restrictions=permit_mynetworks,reject
>         -o smtpd_use_tls=no
>         -o smtpd_sasl_auth_enable=no
>
>

Hmm, What was the $forward_method set to?

This is confusing:
"to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]"
But maybe this is just a result of how the message was sent.

With Postfix 2.3 or newer, you might try adding:
   -o smtpd_tls_security_level=none

But I would think smtpd_use_tls=no would still work (and be sufficient).
(or) might also try adding:
  -o smtpd_enforce_tls = yes

-- 
Gary V

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