On Sun, Jun 15, 2025 at 5:51 AM SyntheticBird
<syntheticbird...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Alex,
>
> The situation is more than concerning and my frustration, as well as others, 
> is growing.
>
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/3787
> https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/amd/-/issues/2950
>
> There has been a hundred of reports on gitlab, I can find more on reddit, 
> tech1level forum, phoronix forum, I got confirmation by some folks on Matrix 
> that are staying in 6.1 and are starting to mock the amdgpu driver. I've seen 
> features after features being merged in amdgpu yet people are laughing in 
> forum, at how bugs are not fixed. On reddit, some users decided to go back on 
> Windows because of it.
>
> There has been 4 bisection attempts so far, that led to no result, and (I'm 
> in part at fault here for having used an experimental filesystem with major 
> version changes). There are people that managed to grasp debug infos before 
> the timeout.
>
> In two months, this significant issue will be a year old.
>
> I do not understand, how you guys are not hitting it/trying to bisect it. Are 
> you not keeping your machine up for more than 30 sec.
> With the immense spectrum of hardware concerned, I cannot believe that you 
> guys are immune to this. And I cannot believe that you guys are letting this 
> rot.
>
> Right now, only a minority is managing to recover their session after a few 
> minutes. Some people are able to get away with it by enabling the debug flag, 
> but this only work for some people and there are no guarantees that it will 
> last long.
>
> Please,
> It's time to forget trying to pass the hotball and get a maintainer 
> investigate and fix this before it gets too late. If we let it rot another 
> year, no one will be able to bisect it because distros and hardware will make 
> use of recent versions only.

Unfortunately, not every issue is readily reproducible and the issues
you've noted are pretty generic.  There can be a lot of root causes
for these kinds of issues.  If you can't bisect your issue, I would
suggest trying a newer kernel as we've fixed quite a number of issues
that manifest in a similar way over the last few months.

Alex

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