On 9/22/26 08:08, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
> On 9/1/2026 4:50 PM, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
> 
>> On 8/31/2026 4:21 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/28/26 17:59, Zhu, Lingshan wrote:
>>>> On 8/28/2026 9:08 PM, Christian König wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 8/28/26 11:53, Zhu Lingshan wrote:
>>>>>> This commit introduces a new helper
>>>>>> amdgpu_lookup_queue_by_doorbell which helps
>>>>>> look up a user queue with the given doorbell id
>>>>>> in a xarray.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This function takes a kref of the user space queue.
>>>> Hello Christian
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your comments.
>>>>
>>>>> Well absolutely clear NAK to the whole approach.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the nonsense Sunil and I have worked quite hard to remove and we 
>>>>> certainly shouldn't repeat such mistakes.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the userq needs to be used from interrupt context we need to hold 
>>>>> the xa_lock_irqsave() or otherwise we don't have any guarantee that the 
>>>>> userq, userq_mgr or associated fpriv went out of scope.
>>>> Holding the spin lock by xa_lock_irqsave() can surely avoid racing with 
>>>> the destruction process, however, it does not apply to all scenarios, for 
>>>> example, you can not hold spin lock in mes_userq_reset_queue(),
>>>> because it calls either amdgpu_mes_reset_queue_mmio or 
>>>> amdgpu_mes_reset_queue_mmio, both of them acquire the MES mutex through 
>>>> amdgpu_mes_lock.
>>> Yeah which is exactly the reason why mes_userq_reset_queue() should *NOT* 
>>> be called from non IOCTL context.
>> I think it is not about whether called from IOCTL, it is a common racing we 
>> should fix, and holding a kref is a low haning fruit.
>>
>>>> Another thing, out of the topic is, holding xa_lock does not guarantee 
>>>> fpriv/userq_mgr alive, for example, when drm_device->unplugged is true, 
>>>> all amdgpu teardown paths in amdgpu_drm_release are skipped,
>>>> and the fpriv/userq_mgr is freed, no matter whether holding the xa spin 
>>>> lock.
>>> That would clearly be a massive bug. Those objects still need to be cleaned 
>>> up independent of device hot plug.
>> I agree, when unplugged == true, means can not access any HW registers, so 
>> this bug deserve another series to fix.
>>
>>>> So IMHO since we have userq->kref, lets use it to maintain the lifecycle 
>>>> of the queues. 
>>>>
>>>>> Grabbing references from this side would obviously result in circle 
>>>>> dependencies.
>>>> I am not sure, we should use the lock/unlock and kref_put/get in pairs in 
>>>> sequence, can you name some circle dependencies or AB-BA lockings as 
>>>> examples?
>>> That is not AB-BA locking, but circle dependencies. E.g. A reference B, B 
>>> referencing C, C referencing A again.
>> A kref is an atomic counter, not a lock, that means we can try hold more 
>> than one kref in a thread, and a kref not
>> depend on another. As far as I can see, current amdgpu driver does not have 
>> such problems, do you see any occurrences?
> 
> Hello Christian,
> 
> I have not heard back from you for three weeks, I wonder whether you have any 
> further comments for this series,
> or shall I make any improvements?

Well just completely drop that series. As I said this approach is a fundamental 
no-go from my side.

As far as I can see we have solved the problems at hand and the rules how to 
handle the user queues should be pretty clear by now.

Regards,
Christian.

> 
> Thanks
> Lingshan 
> 
>> Thanks
>> Lingshan
>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Christian.
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Lingshan
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Christian.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Zhu Lingshan <[email protected]>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.c | 30 +++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>  drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.h |  2 ++
>>>>>>  2 files changed, 32 insertions(+)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.c 
>>>>>> b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.c
>>>>>> index 0a816b3c5ff9..e0639f844a8e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.c
>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.c
>>>>>> @@ -609,6 +609,36 @@ struct amdgpu_usermode_queue 
>>>>>> *amdgpu_userq_get(struct amdgpu_userq_mgr *uq_mgr,
>>>>>>          return queue;
>>>>>>  }
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> +/**
>>>>>> + * amdgpu_lookup_queue_by_doorbell - look up a user queue by doorbell
>>>>>> + * @xa: user queue XArray indexed by doorbell
>>>>>> + * @doorbell: doorbell index
>>>>>> + *
>>>>>> + * Return: A queue with the doorbell indexed, or NULL if no such a 
>>>>>> queue found.
>>>>>> + *
>>>>>> + * This function increases kref of the queue, the caller
>>>>>> + * must release the reference with amdgpu_userq_put().
>>>>>> + */
>>>>>> +struct amdgpu_usermode_queue *
>>>>>> +amdgpu_lookup_queue_by_doorbell(struct xarray *xa, u32 doorbell)
>>>>>> +{
>>>>>> +        struct amdgpu_usermode_queue *queue;
>>>>>> +        unsigned long flags;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        xa_lock_irqsave(xa, flags);
>>>>>> +        queue = xa_load(xa, doorbell);
>>>>>> +        if (!queue)
>>>>>> +                goto out_unlock;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        if (!kref_get_unless_zero(&queue->refcount))
>>>>>> +                queue = NULL;
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +out_unlock:
>>>>>> +        xa_unlock_irqrestore(xa, flags);
>>>>>> +
>>>>>> +        return queue;
>>>>>> +}
>>>>>> +
>>>>>>  void amdgpu_userq_put(struct amdgpu_usermode_queue *queue)
>>>>>>  {
>>>>>>          if (queue)
>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.h 
>>>>>> b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.h
>>>>>> index 6412a7f7b6ef..8fc73862f64e 100644
>>>>>> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.h
>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_userq.h
>>>>>> @@ -151,6 +151,8 @@ struct amdgpu_db_info {
>>>>>>  };
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  struct amdgpu_usermode_queue *amdgpu_userq_get(struct amdgpu_userq_mgr 
>>>>>> *uq_mgr, u32 qid);
>>>>>> +struct amdgpu_usermode_queue *
>>>>>> +amdgpu_lookup_queue_by_doorbell(struct xarray *xa, u32 doorbell);
>>>>>>  void amdgpu_userq_put(struct amdgpu_usermode_queue *queue);
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>  int amdgpu_userq_ioctl(struct drm_device *dev, void *data, struct 
>>>>>> drm_file *filp);

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