On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 01:20, Alex Deucher <alexdeuc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 6:19 AM Liu, Monk <monk....@amd.com> wrote:
> >
> > [AMD Official Use Only]
> >
> > Daniel
> >
> > From the link you share it looks you(or someone else) have quite a bunch 
> > patches that changes DRM_SCHED or even amdgpu, by that case before they are 
> > merged to kernel tree I'm wondering if any AMD develop reviewed them ?
> >
> > They looks to me somehow conflicting with what we changed in our repo....
> >
> > It is really a chaos for AMDer if someone else out side of AMD changes our 
> > kernel driver (or/and scheduler) without reviewed by AMDer, just like we 
> > are requiring your review if we tend to change scheduler's logic here ....
> >
> > This one changes AMD's code: 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20210625133327.2598825-2-boris.brezil...@collabora.com/
> > And I didn't see any reviewed-by from AMDers ...
> >
> > This one also touches AMD's code: 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/20200604081224.863494-12-daniel.vet...@ffwll.ch/
> > Which is conflicting with one patch we submitted (in our repo rightnow), 
> > and neither see AMDder gave a review-by on this one (let me know if I 
> > missed it)
> >
>
> Monk, this is not how upstream works.  You need to participate.
> That's how communities work.  There's a reason all these discussions
> happen on public mailing lists.  The patch author can't be expected to
> know every person on every vendor team to CC with a patch.  If you
> have concerns, you need to raise them when the patches are being
> discussed.
>

I'm not sure I can add much to help this along, I'm sure Alex has some
internal training,

Once your driver is upstream, it belongs to upstream, you can maintain
it, but you no longer control it 100%, it's a tradeoff, it's not one
companies always understand.

Usually people are fine developing away internally, but once
interaction with other parts of the kernel/subsystem is required they
have the realisation that they needed to work upstream 6 months
earlier.

The best time to interact with upstream was 6 months ago, the second
best time is now.

Dave.

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