On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Marcel Offermans
<marcel.offermans at luminis.nl> wrote:
> I was talking about RFC-138 which discusses Framework Hooks. There are 
> several new hooks being proposed there. This is available as OSGi 4.3 early 
> draft 2.
>
> Why embedded containers are out? I have not been part of the spec 
> discussions, but most likely they could not fulfill all requirements (in 
> RFC-138) with that approach.

Aha! Found this
(http://blog.akquinet.de/2009/10/21/the-osgi-framework-multiplication-a-rfc-138-overview/)
presentation on the topic. Not the 4.3 spec... guess it is not public
yet?

> >From experience, nested frameworks do work, but if anything in the parent 
> >changes, you still need to restart all child containers. Furthermore, there 
> >is very little in terms of tooling available for managing nested containers. 
> >We tried the approach in ACE for a while, and did not continue with it 
> >because of that last fact.

Yea, I now restart all tenants upon refresh in parent container. Guess
it could be a litlle more subtle, but is is really must diffrent to a
flat container in terms of lifecycle? In the latter case a rewire also
requires a stop/start of each bundle and thus service?

What kind of tooling did you find missing? I was pondering one a shell
(command) that lets you cd into a tenant. Right now I'm using the
remote shell as a workaround. Futhermore the standard sling webconsole
want be suffiecient. More.. ?

Regards,
Bram

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